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We built our house for LAN parties (2024)

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Re: We built our house for LAN parties (2024)

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Post by aktau »

kentonv wrote: post #183

Oh hello! This is my house! Thanks for posting! Previous discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42156977 Unfortunately this new thread was posted while I was asleep, and so I haven't been online to answer questions as the thread developed. Whereas in the previous thread I participated from the start. Pro tip to anyone whose stuff gets posted on HN: It is a completely different place when the author is…

Hi Kenton!

One thing I'm wondering about (and was happy to see) is how you seem to have your (childhood) friends close by, at least on occasion.

I live in Europe and am considering what a move somewhere else in Europe (+/- 1000km) would mean. Seeing much less of my long-time friends, I imagine. But Austin seems much further from the earlier places you've stated you've lived. Did some of your friends just move with you? Are they visiting often?

Re: We built our house for LAN parties (2024)

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Post by vrganj »

dabluecaboose wrote: post #352
ryandrake wrote: post #274

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> This is the first time it's been posted where most of the comments appear to be resentment that you could afford to do the project at all. Despite the negativity, I'm glad that we can at least talk about the topic of wealth and privilege on HN now, rather than comments pointing it out being flag/voted down into oblivion. I don't harbor any resentment about OP's home/project, but I can totally understand the resentm…

By contrast, I think that every post on HN doesn't need a bucket full of crabs complaining that they can't do the same thing. It's not intellectually stimulating.

You don't think questions of how we design our societies, who gets to benefit from it, how power is distributed, of systems design and how we relate to each other socially are intellectually stimulating?

May I suggest the problem is not with the questions then?

Re: We built our house for LAN parties (2024)

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Post by cjrp »

walthamstow wrote: post #61
rob74 wrote: post #45

> We have efficient heat pumps and solar panels, but it's still a disturbing amount of energy usage and something I'm trying to debug. Perhaps we have too many windows letting in too much sunlight... External window blinds work wonders with that - your AC doesn't have to work hard to get the heat out of the greenhouse you inadvertently built if you avoid the heat getting in in the first place. But yeah, these might b…

I'm putting external shutters on my house in London this winter. This summer was crazy. I've never seen them further north than Barcelona.

We stayed in a hotel in Reims, France which had them. Controlled by a remote, and when they were down they completely blacked out the room too. Awesome.

Re: We built our house for LAN parties (2024)

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Post by rglullis »

adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #329
rglullis wrote: post #167

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He didn't have to stop Google from doing evil, but he could've refused to have his fortune coming from there. > Go on, next you'll tell me about how your hands are clean. They are as clean as they can be , which is a lot more that can be said from anyone who works at any FAANG (or Wall Street, or Big Oil...) No one has been forced to work for Big Tech. No one ever said "I only took those $300k/year salary with those…

> They are as clean as they can be Indeed, which is to say not clean at all. "Only slightly dirty" and " much dirtier than mine " are fine judgements to console yourself of your involvement, but if you intend to indict a man, you'll need much stricter standards than this. To be completely clear: I agree with your moral assessment. I too would not work for Facebook due to my moral qualms with the company. However , it…

> but if you intend to indict a man, you'll need much stricter standards than this.

I don't want to indict anyone. I am not a judge or prosecutor. I am saying that my own moral shortcomings do not justify his.

> Before long you'll convince yourself that you're the only decent man around and the rest are less-than-human.

There is this kinda old book that has some stories in it. I never got to read the whole thing back-to-back, but the Cliff's Notes of it is pretty much that we all are imperfect beings, that we are not able to fix everything on our own and that the best we can do is to recognize and forgive the mistakes we all made.

> it is a terribly dangerous game to begin judging a man's choices when you know nothing about him.

Love the sinner, hate the sin.

I don't need to know anything about a person working for Facebook to know that the product of their labor is bad for society. Saying "this thing you are doing is evil" is NOT the same as saying "you are an evil person". People will end up creating all sorts of rationalizations for their actions, especially when their identities are attached to it. If we don't call out on evil, then it becomes accepted.

Re: We built our house for LAN parties (2024)

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Post by GaryBluto »

torton wrote: post #340
throwayay4929 wrote: post #242

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It's eternal September but for HN. The relatively small group of HNers that used to inhabit this place has been slowly pushed out by people who are looking for cheap dunks. It's still better than other place but your question is naive: this couple not have done anything to avoid criticism. They are the outgroup, and exist only to be attacked. There's no intellectual argument being made here, just in-group signalling.

It's time for HN to build in blocking capability. It's a small percentage of people and it's often the same people repeatedly showing up making the same points but that's enough to discourage reading and participation.

You can already filter noise out pretty easily when you begin picking up on shared mannerisms. I suggest an extension configured with a mix of keywords and regexes, blocking of very recently created accounts and ones with a high percentage of numbers in their username.

Re: We built our house for LAN parties (2024)

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Post by walthamstow »

cjrp wrote: post #363
walthamstow wrote: post #61

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I'm putting external shutters on my house in London this winter. This summer was crazy. I've never seen them further north than Barcelona.

We stayed in a hotel in Reims, France which had them. Controlled by a remote, and when they were down they completely blacked out the room too. Awesome.

By time you left did you work out how to pronounce the name of that bloody place?

Re: We built our house for LAN parties (2024)

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Post by hn993302 »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #335
xyzelement wrote: post #74

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Depending on where you live most cars you see on the road are in the ballpark. It costs about 40k to change the roof on a house around here. So 75k is both objectively massive, and not. I won't argue "privilege" but it seems like both people in the couple have been working for a long time and took equity bets that paid off. Another way to look at it, in many tech jobs 75k could be a bonus (additional to salary an equ…

I don't think the 75k number is what's shocking. It's a house that costs 7 figures. That is not remotely attainable for most people in this country.

It's not surprising given the author's background. What I don't get is the part right before about not being able to afford a family-sized house in Palo Alto. Guessing the answer is yeah, they could afford it, but they don't want to pay that much for something still not very large.

Re: We built our house for LAN parties (2024)

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Post by kubb »

kentonv wrote: post #334
kubb wrote: post #322

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Immediate retirement for me and 4 more people who I like. What's that got to do with anything?

But that's such a waste! 5 whole people taken out of the economy, no longer producing value, just going around consuming resources in retirement. How is that any better than me spending to build a nice house that facilitates my family's comfort and my friends' enjoyment of getting together to play games?

Yeah I accumulated wealth and it resulted in waste.

You’re proving my point.

Re: We built our house for LAN parties (2024)

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Post by kubb »

peddling-brink wrote: post #355
kubb wrote: post #280

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Being silly and obstinate when knowledge is in arm’s reach? Making people spell it out for you because you don’t have the respect to look yourself? OK here’s the short version: the economy has a limited amount of resources and the way they’re allocated matters. A yacht built means no hospital built. Making people work on useless stuff for the rich is demoralizing because their life’s blood is used on meaningless proj…

> Because you think nothing of others and their time. I think there is value in humans communicating. If you disagree, perhaps you are using the wrong site?

Communicating yes, making other people do your research for you, because you’re too stubborn and lazy, no.
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