Claude's new system prompt doesn't want to reproduce song lyrics

Post by qarl » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 2:09 PM UTC

GPerson wrote: post #117

qarl wrote: post #114

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> It just seems absurd to me. But this is just the "consciousness is based on information, not substrate" position, right? It seems absurd? I understand that it troubles you that real computation can be done with marbles... but... it can. So you must believe that consciousness is entirely uncomputable? Do you have any other examples of physical processes that are beyond computation? > A priori why must real concepts…

> So you must believe that consciousness is entirely uncomputable? Do you have any other examples of physical processes that are beyond computation? I think all physical processes are distinct from their descriptions, and have a real existence. We can describe some things about them but our descriptions are not equal to them.

Post by GPerson » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 6:07 PM UTC

qarl wrote: post #121

GPerson wrote: post #117

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> So you must believe that consciousness is entirely uncomputable? Do you have any other examples of physical processes that are beyond computation? I think all physical processes are distinct from their descriptions, and have a real existence. We can describe some things about them but our descriptions are not equal to them.

Hey - I noticed you're not replying to me. No worries - I understand that these conversations can be a bit much. I just wanted to thank you - our talk helped me develop my ideas around "emotion faking" - which I was having trouble articulating. Thank you.