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Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by bcye »

jarco wrote: post #48
Havoc wrote: post #2

Bunny.net is a good alternative - they don’t have CF depth of offerings but are getting there

I tried them with our small company. They seem ... young. Support on discord is not something I can sell to our owners. We sent a ticket that activating some of their services instantly caused bad bots to scan our site, and never got a decent reply on that. Their attitude does not inspire confidence and for that reason we scrapped them as an option. Never actually found a good European option besides them, which is s…

There is a normal support ticket system not on Discord, which they loudly advertise for having a very good response time. The Discord server is not the primary support method

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by lukan »

a2ff6eeb0 wrote: post #94
lukan wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We've known it has an always-on microphone and speech-to-text for over a decade" Literally? What is the reference here?

https://allaboutcookies.org/lg-smart-tvs-snooping

Yeah, about those I know, but what about cloudflare?

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by viraptor »

VBprogrammer wrote: post #100

Cloudflare interstitial pages are becoming the new cookie / GDPR pop-up for me. Remember when the internet used to be good?

Unfortunately that one's on the operators. I can complain for days about CF, but nobody is forcing the companies to default to giving everyone a managed challenge page. Some do, because either they don't care or don't realise the extra cost.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by embedding-shape »

bdauvergne wrote: post #107
embedding-shape wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on your use case. If you have a very inefficient backend (maybe legacy project?), you have massive amount of traffic (say 100K req/s or above) or you really must have sub-500ms latency absolutely everywhere in the world, then it might make sense to slap a CDN (or similar) on top of that. In pretty much any case outside of that, it makes no sense to waste the time, money or effort on CDNs. But, all the CDN com…

How does a cdn makes you backend faster or your latency better ? I thought it was only for distributing static assets and managing DDOS. If it is for cachable but dynamic content install reverse-proxy cache it will fly.

Because it lets you use it as a geographically distributed cache basically. Most GET requests should be able to be cachable on the typical website, besides the ones that are unique per logged in user or similar.

If your server is in Europe, and you have Australian users, there is a physical limit how low the response times can go, serving bits over that distance, so only way you can make it go below that limit, is by moving where you serve the data from closer to the user.

Lots of websites have horrible performance for whatever reasons, and lots of freelancers/consultants basically default to throwing a CDN on top of those when they get approached by businesses to fix the slow website browsing, as they're not the ones who have to pay the monthly subscription, and the less work they have to do, the better $ per hour spent for them.

I agree that it's a shit solution and there is much better sustainable ways of solving these things.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by a2ff6eeb0 »

lukan wrote: post #112
a2ff6eeb0 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://allaboutcookies.org/lg-smart-tvs-snooping

Yeah, about those I know, but what about cloudflare?

They hold your tls keys and can decrypt all your traffic. They're MITM as a service, by definition. They have to be able to in order to cache and forward appropriately.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by viraptor »

chpatrick wrote: post #80
em500 wrote: post #31

Tale as old as time (or at least as the 1970s): nobody ever got fired for buying ~~IBM~~ Cloudfare / AWS / Azure. 9 out of 10 corporate decisions are for blame avoidance / ass covering.

It's actually a great service though.

It's also a great protection racket. They host many DDoS provider sites and protect them from law enforcement.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by AndroTux »

bcye wrote: post #111
jarco wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried them with our small company. They seem ... young. Support on discord is not something I can sell to our owners. We sent a ticket that activating some of their services instantly caused bad bots to scan our site, and never got a decent reply on that. Their attitude does not inspire confidence and for that reason we scrapped them as an option. Never actually found a good European option besides them, which is s…

There is a normal support ticket system not on Discord, which they loudly advertise for having a very good response time. The Discord server is not the primary support method

In my case, the claim was justified. Got a technical response answering my question in detail after half an hour or so.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by embedding-shape »

cbg0 wrote: post #110
embedding-shape wrote: post #92

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That graph is useful for the people who think DDoS is the biggest issue or even a big issue typically: https://www.bdc.ca/globalassets/digizuite/55250-canadian-sma... "Percentage of Canadian small businesses that have experienced a cybersecurity incident" The data from the graph: Phishing 61%; Malware 27%; Network intrusion 12%; Ransomware 12%; Data breach 7%; DDoS 5%; No cybersecurity incident 27%.

What exactly are you arguing? I already said 5%. Your personal experience of DDoS being super rare doesn't seem to match the real world.

Literally the graph you posted agrees with me. Most "cyber attacks" are phishing according to that graph, which I'd argue is less of an technological attack and more social engineering.

Second most answered option was "No cybersecurity incident" shared with "Malware". The least experienced type of attack was DDoS, which is exactly what I claimed too, DDoS attacks are way less common than the internet at large seems to believe.

> Your personal experience of DDoS being super rare doesn't seem to match the real world.

What I claimed was that DDoS attacks where the attackers pipes are larger/can send more traffic than your pipe can handle, is extremely rare. The typical script kiddie DDoS which is more easily managed, is much more common, in that I agree.

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