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Four Weeks of a Vegan Diet Alter Signs of Inflammation and Aging

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Re: Four Weeks of a Vegan Diet Alter Signs of Inflammation and Aging

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Post by colordrops »

John7878781 wrote: post #60
colordrops wrote: post #58

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No, veganism is by definition an ethical framework, a term and movement created in the UK in the early 20th century, by the Vegan Society, which still exists, and has a very specific exact definition on their webpage that hasn't changed. What you are talking about is the Plant Based Diet, which minimizes but doesn't fully exclude animal products, and is not an ethical framework. You might as well say "I eat Kosher ex…

I assume you mean that the study should not have said “vegan diet” and instead should have said “plant-based diet.” In that case, I agree with you. But don’t direct your anger towards me; direct it towards the authors of the study!

I'm not really angry at you, maybe slightly frustrated at the confusion everyone has about veganism. Appreciate your candor in any case. I'm definitely angry at some other people in this thread through.

Re: Four Weeks of a Vegan Diet Alter Signs of Inflammation and Aging

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Post by david-gpu »

colordrops wrote: post #59
david-gpu wrote: post #53

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For how many years did you consume the mangled corpses of sentient beings before you went vegan? How can you live with yourself knowing what you have done? Now apply to other people whatever mental gymnastics it took you to forgive yourself, and leave us be. kthxbye

I have a very hard time living with myself. I feel like a murderer that got out of prison and is still grappling with his past crimes. There is no forgiveness, I feel fully guilty. You project your mental gymnastics. Make assumptions based on your own cognitive dissonance. It's obvious which view is the simple and consistent one.

i ain't reading all that

i'm happy for u tho

or sorry that happened

Re: Four Weeks of a Vegan Diet Alter Signs of Inflammation and Aging

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Post by deadbabe »

John7878781 wrote: post #55
BowBun wrote: post #45

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It's not really a moral issue, it's simply the definition of the word. Using an incorrect term to describe yourself knowing it is incorrect can be perceived as virtue-signaling or claiming your own moral superiority. For example, one could ask "why call yourself a vegan if you eat fish?". There's no policing body here, but people are rightfully calling the double-standard out here. Edit: Would also love to hear the e…

I actually prefer not to call myself a vegan IRL both because of the issue you’re describing and because veganism is (rightfully) associated with having a toxic and intolerant culture. The only reason I said “vegan except fish” in my comment is because the title of the study used the word “vegan” and because the study was talking about veganism in a purely dietary/scientific lens, not an ethical one. I think this was…

If it doesn’t make sense for people to say “vegan except for chicken”, “vegan except for beef”, then why on earth would it make sense to say “vegan except fish”?

Fish aren’t lesser beings, they are living creatures like anything else.

Just stop saying “vegan except fish”. Say you eat plants and fish. That’s all you have to do.

Re: Four Weeks of a Vegan Diet Alter Signs of Inflammation and Aging

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Post by John7878781 »

deadbabe wrote: post #63
John7878781 wrote: post #55

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I actually prefer not to call myself a vegan IRL both because of the issue you’re describing and because veganism is (rightfully) associated with having a toxic and intolerant culture. The only reason I said “vegan except fish” in my comment is because the title of the study used the word “vegan” and because the study was talking about veganism in a purely dietary/scientific lens, not an ethical one. I think this was…

If it doesn’t make sense for people to say “vegan except for chicken”, “vegan except for beef”, then why on earth would it make sense to say “vegan except fish”? Fish aren’t lesser beings, they are living creatures like anything else. Just stop saying “vegan except fish”. Say you eat plants and fish. That’s all you have to do.

> If it doesn’t make sense for people to say “vegan except for chicken”, “vegan except for beef”, then why on earth would it make sense to say “vegan except fish”?

I don't know why you take offense to someone saying "vegan except for beef" or "vegan except for fish." There is nothing inherently wrong with these statements. It just depends on whether you view veganism as a lifestyle or as a diet, which can vary depending on the context. In the context of a nutrition study, we are obviously talking about the diet, not the lifestyle.

Re: Four Weeks of a Vegan Diet Alter Signs of Inflammation and Aging

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Post by colordrops »

david-gpu wrote: post #62
colordrops wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a very hard time living with myself. I feel like a murderer that got out of prison and is still grappling with his past crimes. There is no forgiveness, I feel fully guilty. You project your mental gymnastics. Make assumptions based on your own cognitive dissonance. It's obvious which view is the simple and consistent one.

i ain't reading all that i'm happy for u tho or sorry that happened

>> short comment

> I ain't reading all that

You reveal your crude thought process and intellectual laziness which explains everything about this thread.

Re: Four Weeks of a Vegan Diet Alter Signs of Inflammation and Aging

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colordrops wrote: post #65
david-gpu wrote: post #62

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i ain't reading all that i'm happy for u tho or sorry that happened

>> short comment > I ain't reading all that You reveal your crude thought process and intellectual laziness which explains everything about this thread.

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Re: Four Weeks of a Vegan Diet Alter Signs of Inflammation and Aging

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Post by david-gpu »

colordrops wrote: post #65
david-gpu wrote: post #62

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i ain't reading all that i'm happy for u tho or sorry that happened

>> short comment > I ain't reading all that You reveal your crude thought process and intellectual laziness which explains everything about this thread.

Do you ever wonder why people's eyes glaze over when you talk to them IRL?

Re: Four Weeks of a Vegan Diet Alter Signs of Inflammation and Aging

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Post by colordrops »

david-gpu wrote: post #67
colordrops wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> short comment > I ain't reading all that You reveal your crude thought process and intellectual laziness which explains everything about this thread.

Do you ever wonder why people's eyes glaze over when you talk to them IRL?

This isn't a dinner party, it's an on-topic thread on a nerd forum.
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