A/I shuts down • Hacker News Board

Re: A/I shuts down

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Post by strictnein » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 1:20 AM UTC

13415 wrote: post #257

strictnein wrote: post #171

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Hizballah and Hezbollah are different spellings of the same thing, with Hizballah probably being more accurate and the one regularly used by the US government.

Oh...the US government. That clarifies a lot...

It clarifies what, exactly? That there are a myriad of spellings for a group whose name is originally in Arabic and couldn't care at all about how we spell it? I was just correcting the person who thought it was inaccurate to use the spelling "Hizballah".

Are the Dutch more clarifying for you?

https://pt.icct.nl/article/hizballah-africa

Or how about the Brits?

https://search-uk-sanctions-list.service.gov.uk/designations...

A worldview of "America dumb" is a boring way to go through life, especially with topics about which you clearly have a very limited understanding.

Re: A/I shuts down

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Post by x-complexity » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 2:06 AM UTC

Arainach wrote: post #567

x-complexity wrote: post #556

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> It's OK to say you wish a politician was dead. It's not OK to pay someone to kill them. Both actions are equivalent, as such words are (social and/or political) capital bounties offered to the masses in return for fulfilling the death of said politician. Capital always exists, even in the form of words. To deny a variant of capital whilst allowing another variant is inconsistent/doublespeak. Just because it's not p…

> Both actions are equivalent, as such words are (social and/or political) capital bounties offered to the masses in return for fulfilling the death of said politician. Neither the law nor common interpretation of words agrees with this. There is a significant and crucial difference between words and actions.

> There is a significant and crucial difference between words and actions.

The difference is artificial, and delusionally blinds itself to the base reality that social/political capital exists.

Again, just because there isn't a cash figure attached to that bounty, doesn't mean that a reward hasn't been attached to it in the form of social/political prestige.

Re: A/I shuts down

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Post by ModernMech » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 2:23 AM UTC

stale2002 wrote: post #649

ModernMech wrote: post #611

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Yes you are you left out the rest of the sentence: > … and an actual terrorist organization. A group is not “an actual terrorist organization”. You’re trying to say all groups committing a crime against the government are actual terrorists organizations, and they all belong to the same organization, Antifa. That’s not the case. If that’s the case then MAGA is also a terrorist organization — at least they have a clear…

> You’re trying to say all groups committing a crime against the government are actual terrorists organizations No, I only said that the ones that are committing terrorist attacks, or similarly serious vigilante violence or sabotaging critical infrastructure in groups are. Mere "crimes" aren't the same as targeting a powerplant for example.

> the ones that are committing terrorist attacks

They said Good and Pretti were domestic terrorists, they were summarily executed, so not really the line you think you're drawing. NSPM-7 makes "politically motivated trespass and civil disobedience" a terrorist act. So it's not like all you have to do to avoid being labelled a terrorist is to just not blow up a power plant. Helping someone ICE knocked down during a protest is enough.

Re: A/I shuts down

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Post by bakies » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 2:34 AM UTC

stale2002 wrote: post #650

bakies wrote: post #559

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You didn't describe any relationships. I don't think leftists are intending harm on the USA

Far leftists are quite open about how they think the USA is the evil empire and that Russian, China, Iran, ect are the "multipolar" world that they support. You must be thinking of progressives who merely want free healthcare. Sure, an average bernie fan who wants some more government programs doesn't want the USA to fail. Instead, I am talking about the campists, the far lefties, or the "tankies" that they are somet…

I don't think cooling off the empirical war machine is "harming the USA"

Re: A/I shuts down

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Post by oriettaxx » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 6:42 AM UTC

arcticfox wrote: post #24

unfocso wrote: post #12

Really sad, and also a testament of the fact that as much as we think we try to be indipendent, eventually once somebody starts putting enough pressure on the people around you (and you turn from "a neutral customer" to "a liability") the path to isolation is very short.

Could someone point me to some background on this whole incident or write a quick one? I don't know who they are or what's going on but it seems important.

this one is a good one, in English, that I see is kept updated

https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2026/08/28/18888285.php

Re: A/I shuts down

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Post by aa-jv » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 8:57 AM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #634

aa-jv wrote: post #584

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What you really need to do, Americans, is start prosecuting your own war criminals. Only then will you have the moral altitude you profess to have with the rest of the world, and not until then. "Terrorist" is just this centurys' n-word - a phrase which racists cannot overtly use any more so they invented a new term to supplant it.

> prosecuting your own war criminals American here. This is a non-starter. Nobody does it. And war is a domain where leading on moral authority requires firepower to back it. We don’t agree on what does and doesn’t constitute a war crime, the term seems to cover almost all war as well as actions taken by every global and regional power in almost every military action they’ve each taken. We need reform. But pretending…

Nobody is asking you to legally ban war. Just start complying with your obligations under international law to prosecute your own local war criminals.

The USA is the worlds #1 funder of terrorism and its #1 fighter of illegal, criminal wars. Until the American people start demanding justice for the crimes for which their state is responsible, we are all going down the drain with the USA and its war criminals.