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It is really about data. The endgame is not about hoping devs give them money.
What are they going to do with that data? Is it ads again?
You are about to get replaced.
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More data isn't helping much, if Astra is any indication.
This is just you putting your head in the sand while you gradually automate your job.
I've spent my entire career trying to automate my job.
(I get what you're trying to say, I'm just finding the irony amusing).
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What are they going to do with that data? Is it ads again?
You are about to get replaced.
That's happening anyways, they don't need more organic data for that.
Also, who cares? Such is the price of progress, I'm not selfish enough to hold humanity back because "muh job"
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What does Hyper give you that OpenCode doesn’t? Is it just the removal of the 5 hour limit? I looked at Hyper’s docs but it wasn’t clear exactly how the fine points work. Is it $20 for as much as you want of any model they support? They don’t say that but they don’t say no limits anywhere that I could find. Been using OpenRouter with API prices and choosing cheap models to get work done. It works but a $20 all you ca…
Hyper gives $12.50 worth of usage every 24 hours, totaling $375 per month. It resets at the same time regardless of when you start, unlike the 5 hour limits on other providers. Yes, it's only $20/month. It's also insanely fast; I've never gotten 75+ tokens/sec on K3 from any other provider.
Okay, thanks. Yea, that’s a good deal as long as you’re satisfied with the models they offer. I didn’t see a listing of all the models but there was one screenshot that implied various open models (showed downrev versions of GLM, Kimi, etc., so I figured they supported the latest.
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#95People should realize by now that they aren't giving out thousands of dollars worth of compute in a $20 subscription out of the goodness of their hearts. The base level plans aren't meant for any kind of serious work beyond the equivalent of Google searches. At best treat it like a trial.
I hope everyone recognized the cheap tokens as a transparent ploy to gain more users before jacking up prices. This was obvious from day one.
It was obvious indeed, but damn does it feel good to have ridden the May 25 - Aug. 26 gravy train.
Now, let's see how the Anthropic IPO goes.
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It's just doomer nonsense to me. On the internet you have 4 possible outcomes. Say things are going to suck and they suck. You look brilliant. Say things are going to suck, and they don't suck. Nobody cares because it doesn't suck. Say things are going to be good, and they're good. A few attaboys for getting it right, but nobody cares. Say things are going to be good, and they suck. You look like a moron. Because of…
Doesn't seem to have incentivized cryptocurrency enthusiasts away from being in that last category for years...
Crypto never did anything is the difference? The only people it did anything for were speculative investment types.
That said bitcoin is still at like $80k per bitcoin though... so while it's not a good investment IMO (and I don't really mess around with crypto except for the time I got drunk and bought doge and made money), but there are people out there still using it. There's a bitcoin ATM less than a mile from my house.
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You are about to get replaced.
That's happening anyways, they don't need more organic data for that. Also, who cares? Such is the price of progress, I'm not selfish enough to hold humanity back because "muh job"
That's great. We are obviously both privileged enough to think that. Not so great for others.
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That's happening anyways, they don't need more organic data for that. Also, who cares? Such is the price of progress, I'm not selfish enough to hold humanity back because "muh job"
That's great. We are obviously both privileged enough to think that. Not so great for others.
They'll get through it. You don't just halt progress because the transition will be rough. We'd be pre-industrial if we thought like this.
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It’s good to be aware when you’re buying something that’s subsidized. No need to downplay the importance of awareness.
Aware of what, though? We don't actually know OpenAI's profit margins on inference. Do we need to know? It's enough to know that the market is competitive and new models with better prices are released often. This means you should have a way to switch models.
The entire market is subsided more than it is competitive. The market wouldn’t exist the same as it does today if it weren’t being propped up. Thats the point.
I remember the days when I had a $2000+ credit balance on Uber because I mastered their referral program. “Free” uber blacks for 2 years!
When you’re using free shit that you should probably be paying more for, it’s good to not fool yourself.
In the Uber example, the fact that Lyft also existed at the time didn’t matter to me as someone happily riding around the city in Uber Black for $0. Unfortunately Lyft’s referral program wasn’t so lucrative so I couldn’t switch…
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In all of them I've seen it's a window that starts when you haven't been using it in a while and begin work OR when your previous window expired. The window starts with a set number of tokens and cuts you off when they're used, it is fully reset at the end of the window (it's not a sliding window). When you haven't used any tokens for an extended amount of time it reverts to the point where whenever you send your fir…
Hm, it seems like it'd make sense to automate a script to send one small prompt at, say, 7 or 8am so that you get your reset around noon instead of having to wait until 5h or more into the workday. I never quite understood why they picked 5h, it seems oddly arbitrary
Some third party harnesses allow you to do this, definitely makes sense.