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Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by WillAdams »

asimovDev wrote: post #307
pjmlp wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only because some buy Apple instead of supporting Linux OEMs.

this opens up the options on the used market though. once people start dumping their early Mx Macs, they will turn into wonderful Linux machines instead of becoming landfill or a collector's item that will sit in a display case / shelf

That is an interesting argument --- maybe there could be a tax credit for publishing specifications/keys when a product is end-of-lifed and support is cut off? Or, maybe a company could be required to pay for disposal if that is not done?

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by harha »

brycewray wrote: post #92
sansah wrote: post #7

Lack of sleep and HDMI support is real roadblock for adoption. Hope they gets past soon.

It's not just the Apple Silicon Macs, either; I have a 2017-model Intel Mac which runs any number of distros just fine except that sleep just doesn't work right. No amount of keystrokes or mouse-clicks will wake it up if it sleeps.

Same problem with iMac - got 5k mostly working and a patch for audio using my favorite coding assistant, but that final bit remains tricky. Will post to GitHub if I can solve it.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by harha »

sfdlkj3jk342a wrote: post #211
sneak wrote: post #202

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No, lack of GPU acceleration. Give me a laptop with sleep and HDMI output that has no 3d acceleration and I will give you back an unusable laptop.

If you don't want to play 3d games or run local LLMs, why is GPU acceleration important when you have a more than capable CPU for any desktop UI?

Anything built on Electron can be super slow- had issues with snap packages of VS Code and Slack being super slow because CPU would render.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by dymk »

Gigachad wrote: post #213
dymk wrote: post #210

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Why would you throw it out after 7 years? The software that’s already on it will continue to work just as it always has.

My experience with iPads losing Apple support is every app just shows you an error message saying your app is out of date and can't be used, while the app store won't let you update it because the latest api version doesn't support your device. Unless you are using all FOSS software, most apps want to connect to some server, and that connection breaks rapidly without updates. If you can load Linux on it it's still us…

iPads are a different device so I really have no idea why you’re bringing those up. Macs work fine even when the stop receiving updates 7 years doesn’t the line.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by zer0zzz »

raverbashing wrote: post #290
zer0zzz wrote: post #254

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Sounds like you haven't used Asahi. I found the kde remix to be pretty nice to use. Literally the only thing that I found frustrating was: 1) for the longest time, but no longer, Google did not ship an official chrome linux arm64 package. Chromium Browser also has not included google sync for years now. But now, google chrome does ship for arm64 linux so its all good. 2) usb-c video still doesn't work, so not ideal f…

Good to know, but even in a well rounded Linux it seems you hit several mini-annoyances every day Case in point, any form of package management. Or then you have Flatpack, with its own list of issues

That’s broadly the problem with all distros on all platforms though. I meant to highlight that as far as distros go asahi is not bad.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by zer0zzz »

LtWorf wrote: post #318
shmoe wrote: post #244

It is odd that Apple doesn't chip in here... they've originated so much decent stuff in the OSS space. Seems like a huge missed opportunity.

Can you make 3 examples of things they originated? I'm honestly asking.

WebKit, clang, the llvm backend for arm64

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by LtWorf »

zer0zzz wrote: post #326
LtWorf wrote: post #318

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Can you make 3 examples of things they originated? I'm honestly asking.

WebKit, clang, the llvm backend for arm64

webkit is a fork from KDE, so "initiated" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

llvm also existed from before although apple supported the development.

I was curious if apple had actually started any FOSS project.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by Angostura »

happymellon wrote: post #250
shmoe wrote: post #244

It is odd that Apple doesn't chip in here... they've originated so much decent stuff in the OSS space. Seems like a huge missed opportunity.

Apple are hostile to everything CopyLeft. Why would they "chip in" here?

From what I can tell from the project team, Apple aren’t being hostile. Just not contributing resource

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by Angostura »

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #288
publlus_enigma wrote: post #194

The reason this amazing project exists is the same reason my current Mac will be my last Mac. I wish the team every success.

I got my first ever Mac relatively recently and I'm shocked by how annoying MacOS is. Maybe the mistake was expecting a proper operating system that puts the user in charge and not something more similar to iOS. Also Mac forums are full of dumb users and aren't much help. Average problem solving experience: There is no solution because Apple doesn't allow it, the workaround doesn't really do what you want and the oth…

Can you give some examples of a goal you can’t accomplish?

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by KptMarchewa »

mschuster91 wrote: post #313
xiphias2 wrote: post #295

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What you are talking about is just simply political polarization which is done on purpose by poiticians, which happened whether DHH or Ashahi Linux devs wanted or not. Also there is real human element in both, I'm just going to an Omarchy meetup that's organized next week, and DHH is also organizing some (just not in my city). I believe eventhough they won't work together directly, with open source they can just use…

> but now people are already creating Omarchy M4 GPU support using AI, and Ashahi devs can look at how it's working and understand it, they just want to take things a bit slower to have less slop The thing is... it's legal issues in the end. With AI you cannot prove the provenance of your code, and you might get dinged in front of the courts. With the way Asahi Linux, WINE and ReactOS operate - no AI, reverse-enginee…

It's already established that no one cares. Laundering through AI is okay.
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