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Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#91
post #12

Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community? So much wasted effort when they can just share a pdf.

They want control on the walled garden. When was the last time apple did anything for public unless forced by FCC. Now there is no hope since they can simply donate to trump.

The FCC? I guess you mean their wifi chips or cellular modems or something? I can’t see the FCC having jurisdiction over anything else that Apple does. Maybe you meant the FTC?

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#92
post #7

Lack of sleep and HDMI support is real roadblock for adoption. Hope they gets past soon.

It's not just the Apple Silicon Macs, either; I have a 2017-model Intel Mac which runs any number of distros just fine except that sleep just doesn't work right. No amount of keystrokes or mouse-clicks will wake it up if it sleeps.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#93
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wouldn’t even be a problem for Apple to support Linux. Linux’s desktop market share has never been a threat to Apple at all. I hope Ternus, being the engineer he is, opens this up.

The sad part is that it's known that Apple internally maintains Linux ports to their SoCs > https://talents.vaia.com/companies/apple-inc/software-engine...

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Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#95
post #39
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that you have to keep buying Macs every few years of course. If they gave you a way to install linux easily then you could use it far past their intended lifespan and wouldnt keep you locked into the apple ecosystem. They have proved time and time again that Apple hardware running anything but MacOS or iOS is something they will work very hard to stop you doing.

> past their intended lifespan Thanks to the community, you can install macOS 15 (or older) on unsupported macs (as old as 18 years) https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/MODELS.ht... https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

It's a bit awkward where newer Intel models with T2 chips don't support OpenCore, so e.g. the 2019 MBA is going to run out of security updates with macOS 14, sooner than a 2008 MBA that OpenCore will update up to macOS 15.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#96
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's no lazier than saying "Still no support"

a) that's feedback b) it's useful in a comment thread like this so people can quickly see what the 'caveats' mentioned in the title of the post are

Feedback in a forum stating something the developers are probably well aware people want in a location the developers might not even be reading is not particularly useful feedback. As for the comment thread utility, sure, I guess if you think that not reading the article is valuable for the HN community, but I could just as easily argue that pushing back against comments like that could be seen as valuable for a community that values more thoughtful feedback.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#97
I'm not sure I understand the target user for Asahi.

Is this someone that only wants to run Linux and wants to use their GPU on Linux? Seems like this is not the case, yet.

Or, is this for someone that wants to dual boot and use Linux sometimes, and then reboot into MacOS when they want to use the GPU?

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#98
post #97

I'm not sure I understand the target user for Asahi. Is this someone that only wants to run Linux and wants to use their GPU on Linux? Seems like this is not the case, yet. Or, is this for someone that wants to dual boot and use Linux sometimes, and then reboot into MacOS when they want to use the GPU?

I don't think it makes much sense to expect such a cohesive/specific philosophy from an open source project like this.

The goal is "Linux on Mac". In a commercial product, specific details of what gets built usually stem from a more detailed vision that can be articulated as one. In open source projects those details are determined by what individual contributors are motivated to work on.

That doesn't means a cohesive vision can't emerge, there might be one for Asahi actually. But I think the default position is that it's kinda just a mob of people doing what they each feel like doing.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#99

Reverse-engineering Apple's custom silicon is basically the modern equivalent of repairing a spaceship while it's actively launching. Incredible work by the Asahi team!

Makes you wonder who's choice it was to launch a half-finished rocket. AMD and Intel's rockets sit on the launch pad with GPU/CPU drivers shipped for Linux before T-10.

You're replying to an LLM-written comment.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#100

Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community? So much wasted effort when they can just share a pdf.

> when they can just share a pdf. I assume your question was in good faith, but the information needed to support an entire platform like this is not as simple as sharing a PDF. I’ve spent parts of my career working on much simpler platforms than an entire Apple laptop where we would have to work through 10,000 page PDFs documenting registers and even that was not enough to get the full picture of the system. You hav…

You describe an exhaustive documention, but some documentation would already be better than none. Perfect is enemy of good, as your comment illustrates.
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