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Post by misstuned »

alansaber wrote: post #52
psolidgold wrote: post #38

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Serious comment: I wonder how this dynamic will change when AI has some real legal chops. One could spin up agents that could sift through all the BS discovery docs and correspondence they send to waste time and money. The agents could presumably even file the necessary paperwork on your behalf. Obviously not a lawyer, just food for thought.

AI is good at volume, bad at accuracy and nuance. Of all the tasks to go through with a fine-toothed comb (ie, manually) legal is one.

Genuine question - isn't legal stuff one of the things AI should in theory be very good at? Legalese is like code, in that every word is very strictly defined and there to do a specific job in the text. I feel like that's one of the things AI would be good at writing and interpreting.

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Post by krige »

weiran wrote: post #327
drannex wrote: post #248

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Echo chamber strikes again, because I see none of that, just love for knowledge, history, and science.

Try posting anything even mildly positive about AI on Bluesky and you’ll experience instant hate.

Well that's just what getting out of the AI echo chamber feels like.

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Post by Oxodao »

smcin wrote: post #280
progval wrote: post #152

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Paris' subway and local train lines each have a Twitter account, and they are the only reliable source of information regarding outages. Phone apps (at least three official ones with different data sources!) and websites can be outdated. Displays in station too (though less often), have outages of their own, and (rarely) even incorrect updates.

Doesn't their own Île-de-France Mobilités app have reliable information on outages? Surely it's more reliable than their Twitter account?

This app is just garbage. Can't even use it if you are rooted.

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Post by me-vs-cat »

charcircuit wrote: post #325
koyote wrote: post #231

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It almost seems like we need laws that information about public services have to be available on a public website (as opposed to a third-party website that requires registration). I personally do not know anyone in real life with a twitter account (although I have one, I have not used it in over 15 years), I wonder how many people just go without this information and are angry that it's (seemingly) not available.

X is a public site. Anyone is free to make an account.

I strongly reject that I should be required to create an account in order to read updates about local train service.

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Post by sourcecodeplz »

worldsavior wrote: post #39
iamflimflam1 wrote: post #2

I once consulted a lawyer when a large company contacted me. His response was - they've got a team of lawyers on payroll whose job it is to make you run out of money...

It seems like youtube-dl/yt-dlp survived. t

different things: this is an online service, not downloadable software.

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Post by phatskat »

kitd wrote: post #333
echelon wrote: post #131

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Google and Facebook fucked up the internet. The internet we had in the 90's and early 00's was amazing. Everything felt free, indie, hackable, composable, ingestible. You didn't worry about platforms because most platforms exposed their data via friendly APIs (remember when Reddit and Twitter had an API and that they encouraged people to actually use them?) RSS everywhere, websites with honest to god Bittorrent links…

> Google and Facebook fucked up the internet. I'd say advertising has fucked up the Internet. Everything they (and plenty of others) have done has been to collect and sell personal data to advertising brokers.

Facebook and Google are probably two of the biggest players when it comes to how online advertising has been shaped.

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Post by [deleted] »

codechicago277 wrote: post #3

Few details but glad to see the project will continue. Given how much crucial information is posted exclusively to X, having an alternative frontend is important. Interesting that they were inspired by Invidious (alternative YouTube frontend). That’s another project that could use some love. Hopefully AI coding tools can do some good and make it easier for these projects to find ways into the walled gardens and work…

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Post by boelboel »

gblargg wrote: post #299

Door 1: try to take down sites offering a lite version that people prefer over x.com. Door 2: improve x.com to be better than third-party sites. Which is, Elon?

Making services better isn't the goal of the company, I'm sure they could make it better in a month if they wanted to but they'd lose money (which is what's important).

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Post by trompetenaccoun »

tolerance wrote: post #194
pmlnr wrote: post #171

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> What are incentives for the average person? Their logic seems straightforward: they want to be where their friends are at This is some sort of absolute, fundamental difference between the early web and now, at least how I experienced it as a teen in the late 90s in Hungary. Back then I made a site, because you wanted to make something of my own, in my style, as I wanted. There was nobody else online from my friends…

Then do you think that the average person's disinterest in moving to different platforms is a bad thing? How does this affect the ideal version of the web it seems like you're advocating for?

Those users indeed don't matter. The problem is the cool kids are on Twitter & co as well these days. Because that's where they have the most reach. Almost everyone on social media cares about reach, there isn't much of a point to posting things that no one reads.

The old web was a very different place, it wasn't as centralized and there were significantly fewer people around. There were specific forums that you'd go to for specific topics. Say you were interested in West African dances - there was usually the one forum where all the West African dance nerds hung out. At most a couple of different ones. And they were very small communities. If there were issues with the admins or moderation users could and did do mass walk-outs and create a new place.

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Post by avadodin »

karmakurtisaani wrote: post #96
nixosbestos wrote: post #48

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There's always the big bad scary word, "decentralization". But of course, even among HNers, there's amazing cognitive dissonance among "decentralization is hard and takes effort" and "omg, of course the next centralized platform won't be bought by an insecure dictator-wannabe". I'm not that old, it's played out over and over. I shouldn't even comment here. Decentralization or bust.

I really enjoy the "federated platforms are too difficult to use" voices on HN. Quite the hackers these guys!

If no normie can use them, what's the point?

Mass social networks are influencer territory.

You do want the reach —otherwise you'd just make a group on Session with your friends or whatever.

The centralized platforms are a dictatorship of sorts but they make the often insufficient effort to include groups that hate each other.

If a Mastodon instance can become that centralized platform, I'll be the first to sign up.

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