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Why do people feel the need to go to X so strongly? What am I missing? I don't use nitter or X

A surprising number of official bodies use it (and only it) for realtime updates. e.g. for a very long time the only way to get the latest updates on the NYC subway was to follow their account on there.

More broadly, it’s a platform where prominent people say noteworthy things. I don’t think it’s surprising people want to read it.

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#162

So X(.ai) can scrape the entire web, but nobody can scrape X. Makes sense.

And DOGE can get everyone's personal data but nobody can see crash data from his cars or full reports from government agencies about crashes, or where he's flying in his jet, or where he buys and owns properties...

It's getting to the point where his private security are harassing people for walking down the street in their own neighborhood that runs alongside one of his "compounds."

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I think it’s just literally anyone who sees your post and also has eyes.

The same gesture was made by:

- Mamdani, who in contrast to Musk does mingle quite a lot in anti-Semite cirles

- Bernie Sanders, a Jew himself but that has never kept anyone from being called a nazi

- Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, also often seen in anti-Semite circles

- Kamala Harris

- Elizabeth Warren, who later also supported nazi-tattoo candidate Graham Platner whom she called 'my type of man'

- Hillary Clinton

- ...and many others

Of course the legacy press has excuses for all these nazi-saluting individuals except for Musk, calling these photo's 'coincidental' or 'taken out of context'. The truth is that none of these individuals, Musk included, made nazi salutes but that is not what the narrative pushes and with that unfortunately also not what this here site - HN - accepts.

https://imgur.com/a/C2JsMfg (the others)

https://c7.alamy.com/comp/2PANC6Y/democratic-presidential-ho... (clinton)

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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There are instances full of actual Nazis on Mastodon - that we can choose to refuse to interact with those instances (yes, I've blocked a nazi instance on my instance) does not prevent them from talking amongst themselves or to people who want to talk to them. Censorship is not refusing to listen to people we find abusive. People are not entitled to force me to listen. A federated platform is far more resistant to ce…

How is it not censorship if you are making the decision for not only yourself, but others, too? It sounds like saying bleeping swear words on TV isn't censorship because you just don't want to hear bad language.

If I refuse Nazis access to my house and other people chose to visit my house knowing I won't let Nazis in, I'm not censoring Nazis as I have no influence on their freedom of speech - they remain entirely free to speak elsewhere, to people who are willing to listen. I have no power to stop them from speaking, just to offer those who don't want to listen somewhere where they won't have to.

Nobody is forced to join a Mastodon instance that censors Nazis - there are many that don't, or you can run your own.

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I think it’s just literally anyone who sees your post and also has eyes.

The same gesture was made by: - Mamdani, who in contrast to Musk does mingle quite a lot in anti-Semite cirles - Bernie Sanders, a Jew himself but that has never kept anyone from being called a nazi - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, also often seen in anti-Semite circles - Kamala Harris - Elizabeth Warren, who later also supported nazi-tattoo candidate Graham Platner whom she called 'my type of man' - Hillary Clinton - ...…

wow, the Taylor swift one is way worse

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Somebody needs to figure out how to move millions of people from one platform to other. Otherwise we will never get better platforms and our current techlords will keep getting richer.

That’s why I think atproto is cool. It’s the only thing I’m aware of that provides for actually forking a public social network.

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There's always the big bad scary word, "decentralization". But of course, even among HNers, there's amazing cognitive dissonance among "decentralization is hard and takes effort" and "omg, of course the next centralized platform won't be bought by an insecure dictator-wannabe". I'm not that old, it's played out over and over. I shouldn't even comment here. Decentralization or bust.

I really enjoy the "federated platforms are too difficult to use" voices on HN. Quite the hackers these guys!

Not sure about hackers but the lack of search is a killer for anyone normal. Also, threads or rather the lack thereof in Mastodon is not great either.
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