Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?

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Post by adastra22 » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 6:13 PM UTC

torginus wrote: post #785

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #748

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The economics of this kind of warfare make no sense to me. The Harkonens must have been incredibly wealthy by running the spice trade, but even after years of saving and plotting said that the transit fees to move the armies by the Guild were ruinous. How could anyone wage war like this? The defenders will always outnumber the attackers.

Even today (and back when Dune was written), modern military tech is invincible to an enemy below a level of sophistication. The US used to hammer insurgents with Predator drones who had no ability to retaliate. This playbook has only flipped due to a lot of cheap tech (and the machinery to make them) coming in uncotrollably to these countries has put them on a much more equal playing field. Since the Guild controls…

Both today and when Dune was written the superpowers were being bogged down in unwinnable conflicts due to the effectiveness of asymmetric warfare.

Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?

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Post by chews » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 6:14 PM UTC

peanut-walrus wrote: post #745

kelnos wrote: post #708

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HSTS doesn't protect you from this at all. It only requires HTTPS, which a spoofed-but-trusted cert passes just fine. No mainstream browser (or any browser?) is doing cert pinning. What "other methods" are there that are deployed and actually in use?

Transparency logs. It's mandatory for a cert to be in CT logs for browsers to trust it. Those are public, if this was happening, someone would have noticed already.

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Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?

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Post by jstummbillig » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 7:03 PM UTC

esseph wrote: post #713

jstummbillig wrote: post #692

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Why would that be probable? People on average are fantastically bad at getting probabilities right.

Historical precedent repeated over and over, and the US ties to DoW work, and the national security implications. It's actually the Occam's Razor explanation if you know the history.

Only if you ignore baseline rates. Which brings us back to my original point.

Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?

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Post by DANmode » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 7:32 PM UTC

strictnein wrote: post #636

Neither of these companies have stellar uptime records. Their downtime episodes overlapped in this instance. In this case, it was a partial downtime for both. Also, OpenAI is saying what caused it: > "A routing error starting around 7:43 am PT on Thursday, September 3, made ChatGPT and Codex unavailable for some users across platforms" Anthropic stated their issue started earlier: > "The company began alerting about…

Noting their shared infra feels far from an extraordinary explanation.

In fact, it feels pretty ordinary.

Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?

#795

Post by Vineetyadav2 » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 4:12 AM UTC

Open AI Api key has High reasoning I think that causes it slow down

Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?

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Post by wendelandrady » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 9:50 AM UTC

because the chinese LLM seem to be better than these american ones

Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?

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Post by ipsod » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 6:26 PM UTC

tatersolid wrote: post #784

ipsod wrote: post #425

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Because it says it more often than kids say "six seven".

My kids stopped saying “six seven” about a year ago. I still have no clue what that was about.

I think it might be like, a praise of inanity.

Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?

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Post by esseph » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 9:50 PM UTC

jstummbillig wrote: post #793

esseph wrote: post #713

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Historical precedent repeated over and over, and the US ties to DoW work, and the national security implications. It's actually the Occam's Razor explanation if you know the history.

Only if you ignore baseline rates. Which brings us back to my original point.

4 major AI services all had outages around the same time.

Gemini, too.

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/09/four-major-ai-models-suff...