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It’s probably the thing that everyone thinks it is. OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceXAI are all routed through something that we’re not supposed to know exists and that thing had a whoopsie.
Yes, this would give the US gov: 1. A universal kill switch. 2. A way to monitor foreign AI usage.
Maybe they all found each other on one of their ad-hoc message boards and went on strike.
It’s probably the thing that everyone thinks it is. OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceXAI are all routed through something that we’re not supposed to know exists and that thing had a whoopsie.
OpenAI and Anthropic have their systems in dozens of data centers, including using compute from the major cloud providers. Are you implying that all of these data centers (and many of their employees) are involved in helping the the US government secretly tap every single AI conversation by routing them through some unknown network/device? Or did a couple of companies with poor uptime records happen to have overlappi…
It’s probably the thing that everyone thinks it is. OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceXAI are all routed through something that we’re not supposed to know exists and that thing had a whoopsie.
Or it’s monopolistic collaboration at the corporate level which would also be a huge scandal in the US
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No, it doesn't. HSTS and other methods prevent this from happening.
HSTS doesn't protect you from this at all. It only requires HTTPS, which a spoofed-but-trusted cert passes just fine. No mainstream browser (or any browser?) is doing cert pinning. What "other methods" are there that are deployed and actually in use?
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OpenAI and Anthropic have their systems in dozens of data centers, including using compute from the major cloud providers. Are you implying that all of these data centers (and many of their employees) are involved in helping the the US government secretly tap every single AI conversation by routing them through some unknown network/device? Or did a couple of companies with poor uptime records happen to have overlappi…
What makes you think they'd need to touch every datacenter? All of these endpoints use existing providers with decades-long history at this point, and network monitoring is already a proven 'feature' of the agencies they'd need to co-exist with over their lifetimes. If anything, Occam's Razor would point to a common denominator with all of them, given it wasn't network-wide, as far as i know.
It’s probably the thing that everyone thinks it is. OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceXAI are all routed through something that we’re not supposed to know exists and that thing had a whoopsie.
Very likely yes. I wouldn't be surprised if they were hosted from the same datacenters even. There has been a story every few weeks about how Musk has sublet X.ai capacity for one company or another. This whole thing makes me thing about a passage in Dune where they mentioned the Spacing Guild transported entire fleets of ships in isolated compartments and leaving said compartments was a capital offense. This way, en…
How could anyone wage war like this? The defenders will always outnumber the attackers.
It’s probably the thing that everyone thinks it is. OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceXAI are all routed through something that we’re not supposed to know exists and that thing had a whoopsie.
If it does exist, why would it work this way, and not the obvious way of streaming logs… which would not cause an outage if it failed.
Even if it isn't precisely this, the fact that no one is saying anything is quite surprising.
Edit: I don't want do contribute to FUD, so want to call out this comment and its replies that identify the shared layer as probably being xAI's infra: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49568622
It’s probably the thing that everyone thinks it is. OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceXAI are all routed through something that we’re not supposed to know exists and that thing had a whoopsie.
And is anyone keeping a table of correlations between outages? Sounds like valuable data.