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South African diamond mines are closing due to weak sales and lab-grown stones

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Re: South African diamond mines are closing due to weak sales and lab-grown stones

#111

Literally everyone I know is enlightened about this but still spent $5k on a natural diamond ring myself included. There something about it (probably just the high cost) that makes the ladies very happy even though they are “enlightened”/rational as well.

The same reason they buy LV, Gucci, Chanel, Hermes.

It’s the same reason men buy Rolexes.

Also don’t even question it since economic inequality going up means most of the good high end bags or watches out pace inflation!!!

Re: South African diamond mines are closing due to weak sales and lab-grown stones

#112

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If we can replace the taste, appearance, and texture of a medium-rare rib eye with lab grown meat at a substantially cheaper price, we will.

>substantially cheaper price why substantially cheaper? Break-even would be fine too, no? And as a plus, lab-grown meat is much more ethical. I also think that replacing 'cheap' meat like ground beef would already be sufficient and would make a huge impact, there is really no need make it difficult for ourselves and try to replace rib-eye.

Because if it costs the same, people will just keep buying the "real" thing.

Re: South African diamond mines are closing due to weak sales and lab-grown stones

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Modern beef is unhealthy for humans due to grazing conditions. Maybe the lab grown stuff will be closer to conventional farming output.

Hopefully most people here getting ribeyes aren’t getting them from the same factory farms that supply McDonald’s and sell other cheap kinds of beef. A ribeye is an occasional luxury and best bought from the farmer.

Most people buy their ribeyes at the supermarket like they do all their other food.

Re: South African diamond mines are closing due to weak sales and lab-grown stones

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we can replace the taste, appearance, and texture of a medium-rare rib eye with lab grown meat at a substantially cheaper price, we will.

Modern beef is unhealthy for humans due to grazing conditions. Maybe the lab grown stuff will be closer to conventional farming output.

> Modern beef is

By which you mean US style grain finished short cycle beef I guess?

The world's bigger than that.

Re: South African diamond mines are closing due to weak sales and lab-grown stones

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> Demand for engagement rings gave thousands of South Africans steady work at De Beers. Now, weak sales and lab-grown stones are taking it away. So wait, on this Labor Day weekend, it sounds like the WSJ is pro-worker, but only if they're in South Africa?

WSJ’s journalism is center-left and trustworthy. Their editorials are written by right-wing sycophants and lunatics.

Re: South African diamond mines are closing due to weak sales and lab-grown stones

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post #90

The market for natural diamonds will cease to exist when you can buy lab-grown versions for a couple bucks. They wanted to differentiate between natural and lab-grown versions with the former being much more expensive. But that train has left the station since there's little to no difference in quality between the two. In fact, I once predicted there'd be huge scams where lab-grown ones would be repackaged and sold a…

I knew someone who was an economist for a major jewelry company and he said ~15 years ago that the writing was on the wall that lab grown diamonds were going to decimate their sales. He wanted them to start promoting them and be the more ethical and green alternative. He did not last long there.

It's almost like he's undermining the one single thing the diamond sales industry had used to thrive for nearly a century before him.

Re: South African diamond mines are closing due to weak sales and lab-grown stones

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> The market for natural diamonds will cease to exist when you can buy lab-grown versions for a couple bucks. Just like the luxury watches market ceased to exist when you could buy quartz watches for 10 bucks.

Well the privet to luxury was due to quartz watches taking their core business, and now Chinese superclones are in the early days of threatening their luxury business. At a certain point it’s hard to care about the residual difference.

I've heard that even experts can't tell those superclones apart from the originals anymore. Are they equally reliable?

Re: South African diamond mines are closing due to weak sales and lab-grown stones

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I would describe it at showing how poor/unproductive the rest of Botswana's economy is. Or is the theory here that De Beers somehow keeps the part of the Botswanian economy they don't participate in poor/unproductive?

De Beers was founded by the guy whose colonial governance helped make the region as economically depressed as it was. When Debswana was founded, De Beers was taking something like 85% of the profits from Botswana's natural resources. That's like if I burned your house and farm down, then a few later I discovered oil on your land and offered to help you drill for it in exchange for a little over an eighth of the profi…

What's the equivalent that they did to Botswana of burning the house and farm down?

Re: South African diamond mines are closing due to weak sales and lab-grown stones

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post #14

> Demand for engagement rings gave thousands of South Africans steady work at De Beers. Now, weak sales and lab-grown stones are taking it away. So wait, on this Labor Day weekend, it sounds like the WSJ is pro-worker, but only if they're in South Africa?

WSJ’s journalism is center-left and trustworthy. Their editorials are written by right-wing sycophants and lunatics.

I've never heard of WJS being center-left. But then I don't read it, I only come across what is occasionally shared online, most of which sounds insane.

Re: South African diamond mines are closing due to weak sales and lab-grown stones

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post #115
post #14

> Demand for engagement rings gave thousands of South Africans steady work at De Beers. Now, weak sales and lab-grown stones are taking it away. So wait, on this Labor Day weekend, it sounds like the WSJ is pro-worker, but only if they're in South Africa?

WSJ’s journalism is center-left and trustworthy. Their editorials are written by right-wing sycophants and lunatics.

WSJ is almost never rated center-left on any media bias charts based on any objective standards (eg. Ad Fontes media chart). They always fall into center-right.
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