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Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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Post by tokioyoyo »

GZGavinZhao wrote: post #39
drunner wrote: post #6

I think the time for this space is here. The appetite to depart from subscriptions and loaning your personal data to ad/ai companies is stronger than ever. Currently, a lot of this space is docker compose based and simply inaccessible to so many who may otherwise be interested. Whether or not it's this project or another, I hope something gathers enough steam soon to truly break the barriers to entry.

The biggest difficulty is probably that from my observation, there's a sharp cutoff line somewhere between Gen Y and Z where anyone born before that (and don't work in tech) genuinely have no idea how to navigate their digital life and gets preyed on by those subscriptions. And these people are still a super large portion of the population paying for those subscriptions. Only Gen Z and later are starting to care and…

> Only Gen Z and later are starting to care and willing to spend the time and effort to self host.

Yeah, you’ll need a lot of supporting evidence for this claim. From my personal and professional experience, this doesn’t track. And given how online the younger generations are, it tracks even less. I think there might be a bias towards tech bubbles in that statement.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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Post by noman-land »

cube00 wrote: post #12
drunner wrote: post #6

I think the time for this space is here. The appetite to depart from subscriptions and loaning your personal data to ad/ai companies is stronger than ever. Currently, a lot of this space is docker compose based and simply inaccessible to so many who may otherwise be interested. Whether or not it's this project or another, I hope something gathers enough steam soon to truly break the barriers to entry.

> The appetite to depart from subscriptions and loaning your personal data to ad/ai companies is stronger than ever. Only on HN, the general public don't care, they don't even know the name of their web browser.

The general public will do whatever their friends do. If there was an iPhone charger sized box they could plug in anywhere and have their own personal cloud that can interconnect with other personal clouds, and a celebrity said it was cool to have one, the general public will do it without giving it a first thought.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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Post by rgun »

Great project! I have had conversations along these lines with my colleagues for quite some time now. Will definitely try.

The docs mention cloudinabottle.toml but the app repos all have openhost.toml. Did you folks change the name of the platform?

Also, can you point to how the unified auth works? Couldn't find anything in the manifest spec.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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Post by Eji1700 »

Curious how this compares to Cosmos Cloud (https://cosmos-cloud.io/).

I picked it a few years ago for much the same reason as anyone else (sick of this shit), and it's main attraction to me was it being a turnkey solution that focus security so i wasn't as likely to completely fuck everything important up.

I think a "simple" installation package would be very attractive to most people, and while cosmos has a lot of growing to do in order to be that, I'm still pretty happy with it.

I'm even more happy to see more in this space, because I'm just at the point of "do i stick with cosmos or do i start rolling it all myself" and god the leap is terrifying if you're thinking of exposing to the internet. I get it, but at the same time it feels like you're always one missed config away from a potential nightmare, and that's after the "welp guess this is my second job" problem.

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