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Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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I really like the idea, and I would like to see Tailscale evolve Aperture in this direction. Tailscale is already an easy way for anyone to connect their devices, which is essential for any sort of "personal cloud", and Aperture, while initially something of an AI gateway, is also facilitating connections to other services and apps. If you're building a personal cloud, you also want your AI connected to it, but proba…

Yep, tailscale, sync things. Glued together a lot of services

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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This is a great project! Yes, the personal cloud is coming and it's going to be for everyone.

I'm working on a project with similar goals but some different design decisions - instead of the typical containers I'm going for thin-client apps that hit a common data layer built on a fully serverless architecture. Not ready for production quite yet, but for those interested: https://starkeep.app/

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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How is this different from say Docker? I procrastinated getting acquainted with the latter for a long time because I thought it was more for industrial-scale infrastructure, but when I finally wound up using it I was surprised at how easy and low-maintenance it was.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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No offense, but this is not accessible to everyone. Seriously, take a look at the setup instructions and tell me with a straight face that a 4 year old could set this up.

https://cloudinabottle.org/docs/setup/shared_homeserver.html

There's no reason this couldn't be made as simple as double clicking a .exe and then the whole thing gets setup.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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post #14

It's weird seeing someone trying to promote self-hosting, while building everything with Claude.

"It's weird seeing someone pay for food when they have a garden at home."

LLMs can be self hosted though. Using Claude to build a self hosting platform is a bit like telling people they should be vegan while you're eating a bacon sandwich.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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post #6

I think the time for this space is here. The appetite to depart from subscriptions and loaning your personal data to ad/ai companies is stronger than ever. Currently, a lot of this space is docker compose based and simply inaccessible to so many who may otherwise be interested. Whether or not it's this project or another, I hope something gathers enough steam soon to truly break the barriers to entry.

The biggest difficulty is probably that from my observation, there's a sharp cutoff line somewhere between Gen Y and Z where anyone born before that (and don't work in tech) genuinely have no idea how to navigate their digital life and gets preyed on by those subscriptions. And these people are still a super large portion of the population paying for those subscriptions.

Only Gen Z and later are starting to care and willing to spend the time and effort to self host. All the Gen X and Y people that I know of, including many that are very intelligent and accomplished in their field, literally have no idea how to operate a computer outside of watching youtube, checking emails, and opening Word documents. Ads? They hate it but have no idea how to disable them. iPhone running out of storage and iCloud says I can solve that for $2.99/mo? They would be like IDK what that is but sure I'll pay that $2.99 if that means I can record more videos of my kids.

I really hate this situation, and I try my best to help out the folks around me who I see are getting ripped off (either they don't know or they know but think that's what it is). But still, it's really hard to communicate or teach those people when the skill of operating a computer has become intuition and human nature to me. I really can't put these things into words on the fly that would help them understand :(

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