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Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by Danox »

Barrin92 wrote: post #62
ph4rsikal wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is indeed a huge success but it also underlines how far ahead the rest of the world is.

only four countries in the world have private/commercial space launch capacity, and SpaceX towers over everyone else so I'd say this is doing pretty alright compared to the rest of the world

As EV’s have shown, I don’t think they’re gonna be ahead for long and long-term the current technology is just a steppingstone because damaging the ozone layer can’t go on forever with the current technique being used something else. Better has to come forward.

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by adolph »

artisinal wrote: post #91

I wonder whether the Sámi people have been consulted or compensated for the use of their traditional lands as a rocket launch site. Given Norway’s long history of suppressing Sámi people and their land rights, I'd be interested to know how that was handled.

Interesting:

   Just south of the launchpad lies Bukkekjerka, a protected Sami cultural monument. Prior to Christianity, sacrifices were made within a cave facing the sea. In most recent times, for the past half-century, there has been an annual open-air church service, which attracts many from across Andøya – perhaps even some who remember or even resided in the disappeared town of Haugnes.
https://www.cryopolitics.com/2022/10/06/on-norways-auroral-e...

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by Danox »

ben_w wrote: post #65
ericmay wrote: post #38

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> Just look at how today the USA tried to hand over land of Ukraine to Putin Was it the land that Russia currently controls and Ukraine is very unlikely to retake? There's a spectrum between ideological behavior and pragmatic behavior. If Ukraine gives up this land and achieves peace, maybe it's worth it. I'm not suggesting it definitely is but at least the US is trying to negotiate or find some sort of solution, eve…

> Was it the land that Russia currently controls and Ukraine is very unlikely to retake? There's a spectrum between ideological behavior and pragmatic behavior. If Ukraine gives up this land and achieves peace, maybe it's worth it. I'm not suggesting it definitely is but at least the US is trying to negotiate or find some sort of solution, even if it's not going well. It wasn't the US's decision to make, certainly no…

The Ukraine is not gonna give up because that taco in the White House says so. And if he has any levers, he certainly doing a terrible job one distraction after another.

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by smnplk »

rexskimmer wrote: post #73
hypfer wrote: post #22

This is a huge success, but it I think also tells us that the EU is further decoupling itself from the US. Slowly but steadily. Which is obviously the right thing to do, but it's interesting that it's not just a hypothetical anymore.

They started developing this rocket in the late 2010s, way before the current US craziness (or the current level of craziness anyway). Independent access to space is always desirable for countries that can muster the resources, but this is just one of many companies that appeared back then as a response to SpaceX's initial success.

One would think that ze germans would be among the first to be conquering space with all that german engineering.

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by mlmonkey »

Fordec wrote: post #101
mlmonkey wrote: post #97

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Are we forgetting about Ariane?

Launched from South America, not Europe.

Ariane is from the ESA, which is an organization under EU. The claim was that "EU is finally decoupling itself from the USA". My point is: the EU already has Ariane, for instance. It decoupled a long time ago.

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by Danox »

ericmay wrote: post #76
JohnTHaller wrote: post #57

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Russia's word has been ironclad each time it's been given to Ukraine previously. It surely would be the same this time.

So you don’t think the two sides should even try to find a diplomatic solution?

At this point there is no diplomatic solution, it certainly isn’t gonna come from taco. He’s just looking for a distraction from the Iran debacle and everything else that has gone on or has gone wrong with his administration.

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Post by hparadiz »

Danox wrote: post #102
contingencies wrote: post #87

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Musk was raised affluent in apartheid-era South Africa, his father had some connection to Zambian emerald trading/mining, and Musk's companies have benefited enormously from public contracts and policy. He's not stupid.

He benefits enormously from the government but then acts like he doesn’t.

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Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by nailer »

mrtksn wrote: post #84
blini-kot wrote: post #2

Plesetsk is also european soil.

Europe is a vibe based concept, a place can be European or not depending on the vibes. Even the east west central etc. are completely vibe based. Portugal for example is Eastern European country, meanwhile Romania is central according to some textbooks.

Portugal is not Eastern European and it would be incredibly rare for Europeans to identify it as such. Have you been to Europe in your life?

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by culi »

nailer wrote: post #119
mrtksn wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Europe is a vibe based concept, a place can be European or not depending on the vibes. Even the east west central etc. are completely vibe based. Portugal for example is Eastern European country, meanwhile Romania is central according to some textbooks.

Portugal is not Eastern European and it would be incredibly rare for Europeans to identify it as such. Have you been to Europe in your life?

It's mostly a meme https://old.reddit.com/r/PortugalIsEastEurope/
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