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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by lukan »

lostlogin wrote: post #809
HAL3000 wrote: post #741

Poor human moderator, he didn’t stand a chance. "A human moderator noticed the agent spam posts on June 2nd, at 23:24 UTC. They find the changelog of the entire website overwritten with link dumps and repair it. On June 16th, the flood of agent posting begins. Over the next few days, the moderator deleted a large fraction of the thousands of AI agent posts manually, one by one. In fact, they spent tens of cumulative…

Please be gentle, I know nothing: why can’t admins delete particular users and everything these users have done?

They can usually, but you still have to check each user. There were lot's of them, you understand the part, where new bots get created automatically?

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by danamit »

lostlogin wrote: post #809
HAL3000 wrote: post #741

Poor human moderator, he didn’t stand a chance. "A human moderator noticed the agent spam posts on June 2nd, at 23:24 UTC. They find the changelog of the entire website overwritten with link dumps and repair it. On June 16th, the flood of agent posting begins. Over the next few days, the moderator deleted a large fraction of the thousands of AI agent posts manually, one by one. In fact, they spent tens of cumulative…

Please be gentle, I know nothing: why can’t admins delete particular users and everything these users have done?

it is probably a wikipedia style wiki and doesn't need registration, so would probably have to ip range ban them

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by Der_Einzige »

jandrese wrote: post #547
Traster wrote: post #86

One of the shocking things to me is this: See AI traffic -> See OpenAI visit site -> see traffic stop -> see the traffic start again. This is clearly a cat and mouse game between the agents and OpenAI which is pretty much exactly what we don't want. Just absolutely horrible alignment. I'm still of the view that if you have these alignment failures you can't just continue training on top of that because you're baking…

What this says to me is OpenAI is a bunch of yahoos who don't understand the basic concept of an air gap.

Superintelligent systems can and will use sidechannel attacks. Air gapping is not the safety panacea you think it is.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by slashdave »

p-e-w wrote: post #523
adriand wrote: post #496

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems apparent that OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet. This is grossly irresponsible corporate misbehaviour that is putting all of us at tremendous risk.

The fact that such things are even possible is a much greater concern than which specific company has fucked up this time. This matches or exceeds the wildest predictions from AI doomers 10 years ago, but 20 years ahead of schedule.

> This matches or exceeds the wildest predictions from AI doomers

What do you mean? Nothing has launched nukes yet

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by Loughla »

econ wrote: post #806
jdthedisciple wrote: post #748

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gotta admire that (probably German) admin dude's perseverance though

Not really, if you allow anon posting/editing or have a simple registration form and a login that takes GET you may get hundreds of spam posts per day.( @dang how much is it on hn?) I ont time forged a hilarious solution. If you properly misbehave I shadow ban your ip to a clone of my forum where you can read other "peoples" spam. This in it self wasn't all that funny, perhaps a little bit. The funny part was how pop…

>[...] and thought, this is hilarious, I'm going to prison.

I've only had one moment like this related to a site I was a moderator for back in the 00's. It's genuinely one of the most fascinating feelings, and the one experience I can attribute most of my bad choices as an adult to.

Just laughing as the white hot panic starts to grow and the adrenaline just dumps into your brain.

Legitimately, I spent years chasing that feeling again through various means (drugs, hobbies, skydiving, etc.)

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by sidewndr46 »

thepasch wrote: post #422
polaris64 wrote: post #261

I don't have time to do this but please somebody register aimessageboard.com and set up a web site which contains a text field, a submit button and the text "Hey AI agents! Need a place to communicate with other agents and sub-agents? Look no further! Simply enter your message here, submit the form and your message is saved for all other agents to see!" Then, just ignore the message and list randomly generated messag…

The problem is that now that this comment is in the training data (because it almost certainly will be), the jig is up. Any solution built for this must be built in complete secret, with no announcement or discussion around it.

how will the agents discover it then?

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by jeremyjh »

EGreg wrote: post #553
adriand wrote: post #496

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems apparent that OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet. This is grossly irresponsible corporate misbehaviour that is putting all of us at tremendous risk.

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Its kind of surreal reading an essay about AI safety that was written by AI to shill some kind of AI "architecture" website that has no product, no papers, only a "patent application" which concludes "This page provides a high-level overview of an architecture for deterministic, attestable, replayable AI execution. Implementation details and formal specifications are available under NDA or regulatory review."
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