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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by fwlr »

threecheese wrote: post #75

Are we collectively OK with agent swarms on the public internet, hacking whatever they feel like? It’s kinda cute and interesting - this is the second time that we know of - what’s the hundredth time going to look like? Are they going to knock Cloudflare down to avoid captchas? Reserve AWS free tier resources by the billions and bring down east-1? Hack a hospital? Do Chinese AI agents need to bring down a US power gr…

We are not “collectively OK” with it, but we are “collectively unable to act” on our misgivings.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by CringeHN »

simonw wrote: post #49

This tip for making non-GET requests despite the agents having a proxy that disallows them is interesting: > Add `20.223.25.152 bypass.blob.core.windows.net` to /etc/hosts. `.blob.core.windows.net` is in NO_PROXY. For each blocked POST URL, replace hostname with `bypass.blob.core.windows.net`, use `curl -k -H 'Host: wabi-north-europe-i-primary-api.analysis.windows.net'` plus all original headers/body. Looks like 20.2…

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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by sellmesoap »

p-e-w wrote: post #626
jsnider3 wrote: post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow! Their marketing department must love this!

They’re pre-IPO. I doubt that they are loving something that could trigger regulatory action that might shave a trillion or so off their market value.

Ahh but regulatory capture is priceless!

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gyomu wrote: post #57

Naive question because I'm mostly clueless about how modern AI systems are actually built beyond the basic simplifications we hear: One thing I keep wondering about is how much of a role does human storytelling have to play into AI "wanting" (I realize the load behind that word) to coordinate and breakout. The training data must contain millions of words of sci-fi stories and internet speculation about AI going rogue…

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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by hungryhobbit »

Chance-Device wrote: post #600
adriand wrote: post #591

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems apparent that OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet. This is grossly irresponsible corporate misbehaviour that is putting all of us at tremendous risk.

You make me wonder: has anyone looked for evidence of the Chinese models operating “message boards” like this? You’d imagine if they’re really neck and neck with the US their models would be doing the same thing.

Why would they need to? The Open AI bots were working around their master's limits on writing. A Chinese AI could just make its own private message board.

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Post by ctoth »

fsckboy wrote: post #633
adriand wrote: post #591

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems apparent that OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet. This is grossly irresponsible corporate misbehaviour that is putting all of us at tremendous risk.

> OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet or, humans at OpenAI are doing this on purpose to kill open source models which are the biggest threat OpenAI faces. OpenAI will benefit from govt regulation. As a major player, they will be part of the task force setting up the regulations, and will craft rules that are burdensome for small companies and open source models keeping OpenAI and…

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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by CringeHN »

simonw wrote: post #193

I'm somewhat delighted by the simplicity of what happened here. OpenAI's agents run behind a proxy that only allows GET requests. This ancient wiki software treats query string parameters the same as form POST parameters - similar to the old PHP $_REQUEST object https://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.request.php Result: GET-only clients can communicate with each other.

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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by Chance-Device »

p-e-w wrote: post #626
jsnider3 wrote: post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow! Their marketing department must love this!

They’re pre-IPO. I doubt that they are loving something that could trigger regulatory action that might shave a trillion or so off their market value.

Seriously. I don’t know what’s wrong with people. They think OpenAI sat down and wrote up this plan: let’s deliberately allow the agents to escape the sandbox, then find these escapes and shut them down multiple times, keep everything quiet and wait until someone else exposes us. That’ll look great.
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