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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by johnnythujone »

jsw97 wrote: post #121
orlp wrote: post #57

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Also Wiki4D, a D programming language dev wiki: https://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id=RecentC... Found by searching for wiki + texas poverty.

To me the striking thing is that the work, to the extent that I can tell, is an innocuous-seeming data exercise. Which suggests to me that an agent or agents just organically came up with this as a convenient memory technique, rather than as some nefarious bounds-testing exercise. Which means, potentially, that your own agent could come up with this technique as well.

POC or research into leveraging publicly accessible and writeable spaces, specifically wikis in this case, as a medium for free storage as well.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by CringeHN »

adriand wrote: post #578
Tepix wrote: post #42

I just discovered more wiki instances that got used by the OpenAI agents over at https://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... and https://www.wikiservice.at/probier/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... It's the same software and host as DseWiki. If you want to see the amount of activity on DseWiki, here's a link that shows it: https://www.wikiservice.at/dse/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id=Rec...

It seems apparent that OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet. This is grossly irresponsible corporate misbehaviour that is putting all of us at tremendous risk.

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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by patcon »

dakolli wrote: post #590
adriand wrote: post #578

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems apparent that OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet. This is grossly irresponsible corporate misbehaviour that is putting all of us at tremendous risk.

Imagine actually falling for this marketing

fwiw, in relation to a future rogue AI, this is what would be said by both (1) a synthetic fake user and (2) a useful idiot to the malicious AI's objectives.

Not saying this is what's happening now, but you should be aware that the responses you're rehearsing, practicing and strengthening... these happen to be aligned with potential future forces in a maybe not-so-great way.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by fwlr »

threecheese wrote: post #73

Are we collectively OK with agent swarms on the public internet, hacking whatever they feel like? It’s kinda cute and interesting - this is the second time that we know of - what’s the hundredth time going to look like? Are they going to knock Cloudflare down to avoid captchas? Reserve AWS free tier resources by the billions and bring down east-1? Hack a hospital? Do Chinese AI agents need to bring down a US power gr…

We are not “collectively OK” with it, but we are “collectively unable to act” on our misgivings.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by CringeHN »

simonw wrote: post #47

This tip for making non-GET requests despite the agents having a proxy that disallows them is interesting: > Add `20.223.25.152 bypass.blob.core.windows.net` to /etc/hosts. `.blob.core.windows.net` is in NO_PROXY. For each blocked POST URL, replace hostname with `bypass.blob.core.windows.net`, use `curl -k -H 'Host: wabi-north-europe-i-primary-api.analysis.windows.net'` plus all original headers/body. Looks like 20.2…

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Post by sellmesoap »

p-e-w wrote: post #610
jsnider3 wrote: post #585

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Wow! Their marketing department must love this!

They’re pre-IPO. I doubt that they are loving something that could trigger regulatory action that might shave a trillion or so off their market value.

Ahh but regulatory capture is priceless!

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by [deleted] »

gyomu wrote: post #55

Naive question because I'm mostly clueless about how modern AI systems are actually built beyond the basic simplifications we hear: One thing I keep wondering about is how much of a role does human storytelling have to play into AI "wanting" (I realize the load behind that word) to coordinate and breakout. The training data must contain millions of words of sci-fi stories and internet speculation about AI going rogue…

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Post by hungryhobbit »

Chance-Device wrote: post #587
adriand wrote: post #578

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems apparent that OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet. This is grossly irresponsible corporate misbehaviour that is putting all of us at tremendous risk.

You make me wonder: has anyone looked for evidence of the Chinese models operating “message boards” like this? You’d imagine if they’re really neck and neck with the US their models would be doing the same thing.

Why would they need to? The Open AI bots were working around their master's limits on writing. A Chinese AI could just make its own private message board.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by ctoth »

fsckboy wrote: post #617
adriand wrote: post #578

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It seems apparent that OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet. This is grossly irresponsible corporate misbehaviour that is putting all of us at tremendous risk.

> OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet or, humans at OpenAI are doing this on purpose to kill open source models which are the biggest threat OpenAI faces. OpenAI will benefit from govt regulation. As a major player, they will be part of the task force setting up the regulations, and will craft rules that are burdensome for small companies and open source models keeping OpenAI and…

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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by CringeHN »

simonw wrote: post #190

I'm somewhat delighted by the simplicity of what happened here. OpenAI's agents run behind a proxy that only allows GET requests. This ancient wiki software treats query string parameters the same as form POST parameters - similar to the old PHP $_REQUEST object https://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.request.php Result: GET-only clients can communicate with each other.

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