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Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by Zambyte »

speleding wrote: post #879
jumploops wrote: post #476

I think the thing I'm most excited about is the increase in _user prompting_. If I give a poorly constrained/ambiguous prompt, I don't want the model one-shotting assumptions left and right. The demos of Fable/GPT-6 are impressive, but "real AGI" should act more like a collaborator than either a peon or overachiever. It's a tough balance to get right, and although this has been possible to achieve with additional pro…

That balance probably depends on the human, and the context. If you are a beginner in a field the model should not assume you know what you are doing. On the other hand, for an expert it should try to work out what you mean with your vaguely worded order. What I think should happen is that it should update its memory with notes on the proficiency level of the user, so it gets the balance right over time. This is a pr…

> What I think should happen is that it should update its memory with notes on the proficiency level of the user, so it gets the balance right over time.

Which can also involve just asking for the users level of experience

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by casey2 »

manlymuppet wrote: post #396

I have nothing to say about the actual model, but unrelated--why do so many of these demos include people buying things autonomously? Even if I did trust an AI to get everything right, it's not like the AI can read my mind. If I was ordering food normally and without AI, I would want more control over the process--looking over the options, prices, thinking about what I really want. People don't know what they really…

The point of advertising is to normalize the behavior that makes you money. Take cars for example, millions of people have been killed by cars and they are objectively poor for public transportation yet through a few good advertising campaigns and lobbying efforts American society redesigned every city cars.

About half the oil the US uses (for the last 50 years) goes to cars so you can put every middle east boondoggle onto the bill too. Don't think that just because it's the stupidest idea you've ever heard that people won't rejigger society to make is kinda work for 50 years.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by plaidfuji »

mdp553 wrote: post #772
manlymuppet wrote: post #396

I have nothing to say about the actual model, but unrelated--why do so many of these demos include people buying things autonomously? Even if I did trust an AI to get everything right, it's not like the AI can read my mind. If I was ordering food normally and without AI, I would want more control over the process--looking over the options, prices, thinking about what I really want. People don't know what they really…

Maybe we are not the real audience. I wonder if they are trying to convince the advertising industry/investors that in the future it won't be Google search that stands between the consumer and the product, but rather their LLM.

Bingo

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by plaidfuji »

orliesaurus wrote: post #72

I wonder if this is going to be one of those days where you'll be like: Oh yeah I remember where I was when the first version of AGI launched

More likely ten years from now you’ll think, “man, we were pretty naive to think we were on the cusp of AGI back when LLMs automated low-level software engineering.”

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by pontus »

cheikhcheikh wrote: post #947
MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #942

"""OpenAI called the model a "generational leap" for areas such as cybersecurity, professional work, software engineering, and science, with the company's president Greg Brockman saying that it could eventually be seen as the arrival of artificial general intelligence""" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPT-6_Astra according to Sam Altman from last year, an LLM should 'solve quantum gravity', if it is to count as AGI. D…

I think that would be more of ASI than AGI, AGI is a smart human, I'd say we're pretty close if not already there for most stuff we've been focusing on like coding. ASI is a super genius, beyond the smartest human, and we're nowhere near that. But as we've already seen with LLMs you don't need to wait for ASI to solve hard problems in math and physics.

I find the distinction between AGI and ASI to be a red herring. In my mind, we humans already have enough intelligence to basically solve any problem given enough time and a 'scratch pad'. It's sort of like Turing-completeness but for intelligence.

Saying that a computer exhibits artificial-SUPER-intelligence feels a little like saying that one universal Turing machine is more expressive than another universal Turing machine. The thing that sets the two Turing machines apart is not how expressive they are but how quickly and efficiently they can arrive at the given output.

It's hard for me to imagine a task that ASI could complete which a human with enough time and determination couldn't also complete, although I can imagine such tasks for dogs which don't exhibit the same level of intelligence as humans. Maybe I'm too human-centric and naive. Maybe there are other tasks out there that are beyond human intelligence even given infinite time.

If, however, my view of intelligence is correct, then the distinction between ASI and AGI is illusory, and the real distinction that we would see between systems is just their speed, efficiency, determination, etc.

In my mind, once we achieve AGI, we immediately have ASI: just run that AGI on a faster computer, across many nodes, etc. Instead of having humans solve quantum gravity over the next 1000 years, just have AGI solve it over the next month.

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