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Gmail to end support for "Send as" for third-party addresses, such as @yahoo.com

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Re: Gmail to end support for "Send as" for third-party addresses, such as @yahoo.com

#91

Moving to Fastmail was almost entirely painless, although you may end up with 1-2 pieces of spam a day.

Fastmail seems great

Do you see a referral link or code in their comment? No? Then obviously they aren't making money off it.

Re: Gmail to end support for "Send as" for third-party addresses, such as @yahoo.com

#92
Regarding the outrage in this thread: Am I missing something? DMARC/SPF/DKIM enforcement makes third-party relaying fragile and likely to cause deliverability failures. Discontinuing it seems like progress towards reducing abuse. Where am I wrong on this?

Re: Gmail to end support for "Send as" for third-party addresses, such as @yahoo.com

#93

> This change does not affect Google Workspace aliases or other Gmail addresses you own. I bet most people complaining about this change don’t even know this feature exists. Right now you can forge email from any email address you can verify ownership. Most of those emails will end up in a spam folder. This doesn’t affect email addresses that Google controls DMARC records for.

Isn't this just using SMTP through whatever mail server you have connected to Gmail? Either way, this is likely going to stop me from using Gmail as my mail aggregator, I've used this feature for nearly a decade to send and receive from 6 different addresses, Gmail recognizes the to address and automatically sets the from address to the correct account. Is Thunderbird still decent nowadays? What's a decent mobile + d…

No, Gmail directly sends the email from their own SMTP servers (you have to set up SPF to allow them etc)

Re: Gmail to end support for "Send as" for third-party addresses, such as @yahoo.com

#95
post #57

This is suicide for Gmail.

that's pretty hyperbolic. i would guess some very large percent (80%? 90%?) of gmail users have never once even thought about the feature.

it'll lose them some tech folk, but it's hardly "suicide".

Re: Gmail to end support for "Send as" for third-party addresses, such as @yahoo.com

#96
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a different angle, I moved from hosting my own e-mail server to having it all served in Fastmail, and I couldn't be happier as well!

How's delivery? I ran a mail server when I was a kid, and I'm not sure I have the patience to do it again

I don't think I could ever go back to running an e-mail server again, given the continually evolving battle with convincing the major e-mail providers that your IP is legit (I'm looking at you AT&T!).

Re: Gmail to end support for "Send as" for third-party addresses, such as @yahoo.com

#97
I am not technical. What does this mean for one who migrated to Proton but has their old Gmail account forward to a new Proton address? I am guessing that's unaffected and it's just outbound from Gmail as a third-party email domain?

Re: Gmail to end support for "Send as" for third-party addresses, such as @yahoo.com

#98

Regarding the outrage in this thread: Am I missing something? DMARC/SPF/DKIM enforcement makes third-party relaying fragile and likely to cause deliverability failures. Discontinuing it seems like progress towards reducing abuse. Where am I wrong on this?

IF headline contains (Google OR Musk OR Israel) GOTO outrage.

That's all.

Re: Gmail to end support for "Send as" for third-party addresses, such as @yahoo.com

#99

I moved all my custom domains to Fastmail five or six years ago and couldn't be happier. My Gmail only exists to catch legacy messages and Google service notifications. I look forward to the day I can completely migrate out of all their products, but some organizations I work with who use Google for various things have made that a slow slog.

Me too. Moving mail to my own domain is one of the best things I've ever done. To anyone considering it: just do it. Doesn't matter what provider you pick, the important thing is to start receiving mail via your own domain as soon as humanly possible. Once mail is going to your own domain, switching is as easy as updating DNS MX records.

Apple is a good choice if someone doesn’t know which company to start with. A lot of Apple customers have iCloud+ but don’t realize email hosting on your own domain is included in the plan. If you’re already paying for it you might as well use it.

Re: Gmail to end support for "Send as" for third-party addresses, such as @yahoo.com

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me too. Moving mail to my own domain is one of the best things I've ever done. To anyone considering it: just do it. Doesn't matter what provider you pick, the important thing is to start receiving mail via your own domain as soon as humanly possible. Once mail is going to your own domain, switching is as easy as updating DNS MX records.

Apple is a good choice if someone doesn’t know which company to start with. A lot of Apple customers have iCloud+ but don’t realize email hosting on your own domain is included in the plan. If you’re already paying for it you might as well use it.

I was totally unaware of this. I haven't quite been ready to pull the trigger on something like FastMail or ProtonMail, but I have a few domains kicking around and figure it's worth a shot to try it out. Thanks!
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