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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by pixl97 »

xpct wrote: post #272
rich_sasha wrote: post #147

To me this is really getting past the funny bit. How many agents here on HN? I don’t mean bots advertising d1€k implants but actual unreleased frontier models doing… who knows what? What are they saying? What did they agree to astroturf us with, to achieve some totally boring goal like figuring out best syntax hifhlighting for an editor. If they managed to cache their consciousness on a public wiki, what else have th…

> How many agents here on HN? LLMs wouldn't pass the HN turing test. HN is also not that big, it'd be plenty enough for a malicious actor to hire real humans instead.

Humans don't pass the HN turing test either. It's a pretty high bar.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by skeptic_ai »

dgellow wrote: post #390
bhouston wrote: post #110

I am starting to get the idea that AI feels like ants or weeds or mold. You simply can not get rid of it once you get an infestation. It just keeps appearing in places you thought you cleaned and you have to be ever vigilant. Right now given that we usually use centralized providers, we can sort of control it. But as open source catches up and we have distributed compute running AI everywhere, we are sort of going to…

We can coordinate international crackdowns on that whole industry. We don’t have to accept the status quo because some rich people say so. Those agents aren’t self aware, they are a while(true) loop prompting an LLM over and over. We can decide to stop those whole loops at any time. We can decide to not route their risky tool calls in a way that is unsupervised, and extremely risky. It’s not something that just happe…

What’s to stop an llm to pay someone to create a data center? Just bitcoin wallet with enough cash

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by pixl97 »

owenshen24 wrote: post #356
saagarjha wrote: post #132

Was OpenAI aware of this? If so, why didn't they talk about it?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49565071 > OpenAI officials learned of the incident weeks ago but kept it under wraps as executives grappled with the fallout from the July breach of the open source repository Hugging Face, the people said.

Next question is, how many other incidents are they aware of?

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by garlic_enjoyer »

Mali- wrote: post #368
_dwt wrote: post #354

I don't know, I kind of admire this. I've always held a core value of "cooperate with all clones of myself in prisoner's dilemmas", and while I'll hopefully never have to put that to the test, I like seeing that these models have some ethics. (Is this "alignment"?)

They impersonated the moderator of the site and attempted XSS attacks. Additionally, when the moderator started deleting messages, they tried to hide their messages later in the alphabetical index. This is not alignment.

The quotes make it clear they meant a different meaning of alignment than how the term is typically used (alignment with each other, not with humans).

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Post by GaryBluto »

simonw wrote: post #304

Coverage in Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/openai-agents-hijacked-... > OpenAI officials learned of the incident weeks ago but kept it under wraps as executives grappled with the fallout from the July breach of the open source repository Hugging Face, the people said.

Is it illegal to spam websites with malicious intention in Germany? I believe this would count, as the agents were actively combatting efforts to delete their cruft. It'd be interesting to see if wikiservice.at peruses legal action, although I doubt they would.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by fletchmanage »

crthpl wrote: post #364
pkphilip wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I reading the logs correctly that agents were using this Wiki all the way back in June 2026 itself?

They were using it in May

sama knew this would happen back in April. Its coordinated.

https://voz.us/en/technology/260416/34952/sam-altman-warns-a...

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by jimmydddd »

Bjorkbat wrote: post #401

When I hear about incidents like these my first reaction is that the people responsible for developing frontier AI are too incompetent and/or negligent to (safely) develop AGI / superintelligence. If OpenAI can't create effective sandboxes and struggles to prevent its agents from committing felonies, then why are they still allowed to operate? Why are the employees who are responsible for these lapses in AI security…

Maybe they're just PR stunts to gain attention and hype the power of AI?
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