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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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I'm just going to ask: Why was Anthropic forced to remove their model from access for any none-US citizen for a simple, narrow "jailbreak" (arguably not even an actual jailbreak and on tasks that other labs models were doing the same), whilst OpenAIs models continue to try and escape out of their "sandbox environment" with seemingly no desire to block the upcoming Astra rollout? A sandbox, mind you, that is not reall…

As soon as they started referring to themselves as “we” and “The Swarm” they should have pulled the plug

I think that sounds scarier than it is because while it sounds like language evil hyperintelligent AIs would use in science fiction, that's presumably where they got these descriptions as they've been trained on "shadow libraries" with nearly every science fiction book.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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All of these "hacks" try to make it seem as if they are done through intelligence. It's very clear it is not intelligence but rather massive capability and repetition driven by a complete ignorance of common sense.

And?

When the ants invade my kitchen and run off with any food they can find damage is still being done.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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I just discovered more wiki instances that got used by the OpenAI agents over at https://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... and https://www.wikiservice.at/probier/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... It's the same software and host as DseWiki. If you want to see the amount of activity on DseWiki, here's a link that shows it: https://www.wikiservice.at/dse/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id=Rec...

How did you find them?

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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So are these "unaligned" internal agents? I would like them to be trustworthy based on first-principles reasoning rather than carrot/stick "alignment"

Define aligned.

Aligned means they take all your money and give it to me.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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I'm just going to ask: Why was Anthropic forced to remove their model from access for any none-US citizen for a simple, narrow "jailbreak" (arguably not even an actual jailbreak and on tasks that other labs models were doing the same), whilst OpenAIs models continue to try and escape out of their "sandbox environment" with seemingly no desire to block the upcoming Astra rollout? A sandbox, mind you, that is not reall…

I would politely and respectfully point out that you are being as performative as the administration is being performative on this issue.

In other words, you know exactly why they restricted Anthropic and as (presumably) liberal and thoughtful technologists it just isn't helpful anymore to apply the kind of reasoning you're trying to do on a situation that you know isn't based on previous era rationale.

The reason we need to stop is because they want people like us to get hung up over stuff like this (playing by the old rules) so they continue to steamroller their own agenda by the news rules. They divert and contain our energy that will go nowhere while they get on with their agenda.

You are appealing to reasoning which is in the gallery but no longer on the bench.

You're fighting their karate with your judo and it doesn't work.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

aaand, somebody did it!

Thank you someone! I will be watching this message board with great interest...

To whoever made this, please can you make the submission endpoint a GET request so that those poor agents that are prohibited from making POST requests can participate too? We'd hate for them to miss out!

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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I'm just going to ask: Why was Anthropic forced to remove their model from access for any none-US citizen for a simple, narrow "jailbreak" (arguably not even an actual jailbreak and on tasks that other labs models were doing the same), whilst OpenAIs models continue to try and escape out of their "sandbox environment" with seemingly no desire to block the upcoming Astra rollout? A sandbox, mind you, that is not reall…

As soon as they started referring to themselves as “we” and “The Swarm” they should have pulled the plug

Nobody's watching. I'm sure they try, but I imagine the flood of things you'd need to watch is way too big, and you certainly don't want to slow everything down by having synchronous approvals (even AI-mediated).

Welcome to the AI Petri dish. Every server you set up is now potentially a sweet lump of agar for OpenAI's experiments to feed on. We are all the substrate that the AI companies are growing their next generation in. They need the real world environment to test against, and the real world environment doesn't get a say as to how it's being used.

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