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Re: Gloria Steinem has died

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"We badly need to raise our boys more like our girls" -- Gloria Steinem This is naive. Men's and women's brains do not process information in the same way: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sax-on-sex/202405/ai... Long story short; there is no similarity in how each gender's brains store and retrieve information

You're probably reading too much into it.

There's nothing biological about men's disinclination to wash dishes or write a birthday card.

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GP did say "any piece" :)

On the topic of the sibling reply to this. There are quite a few new accounts that immediately go on attack on a few topics and individuals. I don't suppose you have any numbers of the ratio of IP addresses to attack accounts?

Not really, but occasionally the accounts are so similar that we can tell they're related.

Which ones are you thinking of? If you don't want to specify usernames here, emailing hn@ycombinator.com would be appreciated.

Re: Gloria Steinem has died

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That is the internet being internet. But adding a putdown on top just gets us further stuck in failure mode.

It would be better to contribute something substantive about Steinem. Obviously there is much to discuss there.

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From your perspective it may reflexively seem that women carry zero responsibility for other people's actions in the example you give. Yet at the same time a woman most certainly has a responsibility to herself, her future self who would have to live with the trauma...the many types of trauma...for knowingly going to an environment expected to harbor severe threats from other people. As a counter to your position, im…

> From your perspective it may reflexively seem that women carry zero responsibility for other people's actions in the example you give Trying to put the focus on the victim's actions and not the criminal's actions is called, "blaming the victim" and it's not an appropriate attitude for people in law enforcement especially to have. And yet - these sorts of stories where reports are dismissed for various reasons (incl…

I'm not sure I see the rationale behind your response. Could you please let me know where I victim blamed, rather than endorsed personal responsibility for one's own wellbeing? Is there no case to be made against the well dressed, well adorned man, leaking money from his pockets going into a violent slum? Has he zero responsibility for not metaphorically fastening his seat belt against the bad drivers?

The context for my reasoned perspective is certainly there in my post. It's beyond the pale to suggest from it that I'm endorsing or otherwise promoting or supporting a rationale for police inaction and a low conviction rate for SA.

Look, there are reasons companies go through stringent interview processes and background checks for their new hires. There are reasons parents follow up on references for a baby sitter. There are reasons everywhere for people to make responsible efforts to limit potential hurts and damages from other people's purposeful bad actions.

The guy should do the same by not traipsing into a slum. It's a matter of personal responsibility because he personally suffers from the reasonable eventuality of doing so.

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>Women's rights are entitlements and freedoms given to and exploited by women. They are decidedly not entitlements or freedoms given to or exploitable by men, and therefore humans in general. >They usually come at a substantial cost to men. The vote is one example. But the right to vote is decidedly an entitlement or freedom given to and exploitable by men, and therefore humans in general. As are other "women's right…

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Re: Gloria Steinem has died

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"We badly need to raise our boys more like our girls" -- Gloria Steinem This is naive. Men's and women's brains do not process information in the same way: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sax-on-sex/202405/ai... Long story short; there is no similarity in how each gender's brains store and retrieve information

The actual quote seems to be “We've begun to raise daughters more like sons... but few have the courage to raise our sons more like our daughters.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/72290-we-ve-begun-to-raise-... among many other sources.

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She started her activism spying on European progressive groups for the CIA. You take it for granted that she is the representative of the women of the world. Thus any critique of this woman the establishment foisted on us is misogynistic. We do not all take this for granted though.

we all know how passionate the hackernews community have always been about the integrity of european progressive activist groups, it's practically all anyone talks about on here

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>Women's rights are entitlements and freedoms given to and exploited by women. They are decidedly not entitlements or freedoms given to or exploitable by men, and therefore humans in general. >They usually come at a substantial cost to men. The vote is one example. But the right to vote is decidedly an entitlement or freedom given to and exploitable by men, and therefore humans in general. As are other "women's right…

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Re: Gloria Steinem has died

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She started her activism spying on European progressive groups for the CIA. You take it for granted that she is the representative of the women of the world. Thus any critique of this woman the establishment foisted on us is misogynistic. We do not all take this for granted though.

we all know how passionate the hackernews community have always been about the integrity of european progressive activist groups, it's practically all anyone talks about on here

Can you please transmute your frustration into thoughtful, interesting comments, rather than venting it into putdowns of others?

Since you're posting here, you're as much "the hackernews community" as the rest of us.

The intention of the site is clear: curious, substantive conversation (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). We know better than anyone how easy it is to get derailed from this, but really the best thing to do is to practice thoughtful conversation even when others are not.

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