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Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by Jaxkr »

driverdan wrote: post #247
abixb wrote: post #227

I want to take a step back: So, this is GPT-6 -- the natural number version release comparable to GPT-4 and GPT-5 from the past few years. The ARC-AGI-3 score is obviously impressive at 99.9% (we'll need to wait for more details on how they used the response API harness on GPT-6 Astra, wrt reasoning retention and compaction), but every other benchmarks seems to be a relatively modest improvement, comparable with any…

> If this is truly AGI (subject to one's definition of AGI still) Scoring well in a benchmark that's called AGI does not make an LLM AGI.

The goalposts of AGI will shift forever. If you showed our current capabilities to someone from 2016 it would be declared AGI.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by gordonhart »

ShoeMascot wrote: post #632

Through various comments here there is a clear confusion on what AGI means. Can someone point to a definite clarification? Is it: A) “Resting” intelligence that cycles 24/7 toward some goal, and any potential emergent ambient goals? (kinda what I think) B) Consciousness itself? The ability to feel and experience alongside the thinking - even if it is toward the end of completing some task? C) “The Singularity” (whate…

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Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by newsy-combi »

adastra22 wrote: post #551
abixb wrote: post #227

I want to take a step back: So, this is GPT-6 -- the natural number version release comparable to GPT-4 and GPT-5 from the past few years. The ARC-AGI-3 score is obviously impressive at 99.9% (we'll need to wait for more details on how they used the response API harness on GPT-6 Astra, wrt reasoning retention and compaction), but every other benchmarks seems to be a relatively modest improvement, comparable with any…

We've had AGI (artificial general intelligence) probably since the first release of ChatGPT, and certainly since the first agentic harnesses. They're just finally acknowledging what the term means.

We've had AGI since RNG! Cut the poor, unacknowledged RNG AGI some slack, will ya? It can literally solve everything when you're patient enough.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by strulovich »

FinnKuhn wrote: post #585
manlymuppet wrote: post #403

I have nothing to say about the actual model, but unrelated--why do so many of these demos include people buying things autonomously? Even if I did trust an AI to get everything right, it's not like the AI can read my mind. If I was ordering food normally and without AI, I would want more control over the process--looking over the options, prices, thinking about what I really want. People don't know what they really…

You can't even get many people to buy things online at all and if you can it's less profitable than retail, because you need to spend a lot of money to convince people, advertise to be seen, and account for returns. I think this is also due to the factors you mention. One quick example: In fashion, Inditex and Shein have about the same revenue (€39.9bn and $41.8bn in 2025), but Inditex is more than three times as pro…

I recently needed to buy some hardware for a piece of furniture.

Ran Codex, it found it for 18% less than what I found in the top Google results. It did it by finding smaller shops, applying a discount code, subscribing to a newsletter for a better code after approval, and took into account the shipping (by placing it in the cart and going to checkout) all to get me the best price.

I’m guessing without it I would have spent much more time on it and paid the original price I saw.

If you use AI agents well, they can easily save you more money than they cost, and saving money is something most people are pretty excited about.

(Disclosure: OpenAI employee)

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by tiborsaas »

abixb wrote: post #227

I want to take a step back: So, this is GPT-6 -- the natural number version release comparable to GPT-4 and GPT-5 from the past few years. The ARC-AGI-3 score is obviously impressive at 99.9% (we'll need to wait for more details on how they used the response API harness on GPT-6 Astra, wrt reasoning retention and compaction), but every other benchmarks seems to be a relatively modest improvement, comparable with any…

> No video announcement

They've released two videos:

Vision video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QNsdr-Qx_I

(kinda reminds me of these retro videos about the future home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbaehgxdp0) ((can't find the other one where someone controls the home computer with voice))

Vibe coding with it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TTyyY3VWh8

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by diomedes »

zug_zug wrote: post #385
intenex wrote: post #248

The ARC-AGI-3 scorecard is extremely misleading given that it clearly states itself that "with [the responses API] harness, we estimate Sol would score in the ballpark of ~30%." but it shows a score of 7.8% for GPT-5.6 Sol presumably since if they updated the percentage for GPT-5.6 Sol to the score it would receive with the responses API harness they used for GPT-6 Astra they'd have to do the same for the percentage…

> I'd be curious to hear takes on what would make you think Astra is yet to be AGI, and what would still need to be achieved for this to effectively be AGI from this point forward. To me AGI is all about the "G" general (we already had the AI part). General meaning universal, everything. It's not a function of knowledge or specific hardcoded tests, it's that you could give it a test it's never heard of before and nev…

>be able to sort through research and come to conclusions on complex geopolitical/sociological topics (e.g. theorize on whether AGI will result in mass poverty or mass abundance and be able to argue persuasively)

i'm not sure what makes you think AI cannot do this already. in my experience, this sort of deep research is something AI is quite good at.

example i just tested: https://chatgpt.com/share/6a9a20e3-1d20-83ea-a125-31aa240c74...

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Post by grandarmory »

ShoeMascot wrote: post #632

Through various comments here there is a clear confusion on what AGI means. Can someone point to a definite clarification? Is it: A) “Resting” intelligence that cycles 24/7 toward some goal, and any potential emergent ambient goals? (kinda what I think) B) Consciousness itself? The ability to feel and experience alongside the thinking - even if it is toward the end of completing some task? C) “The Singularity” (whate…

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Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by Telanir »

AGI to me means capable of absorbing new information on the fly and self-evolution. As long as it is a pre-trained model without live post-training capability, it's not AGI to me.

It is extremely impressive, but it doesn't pick up skills in a lasting manner, and requires a beefy harness for it to perform.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by aabajian »

Chinjut wrote: post #319

What is going to become of life for those of us who do not work at AI labs and are unlikely to be hired by AI labs, despite all the years we put into learning coding, math, etc, as we were told to do? Those of us who made the mistake of studying anything other than machine learning. How will we make a living? (We don't live in a world that seems likely to distribute gains widely instead of largely to the handful of a…

The answer to this is: countries with the most natural resources will build robots to farm all their food, mine all their minerals, and build all their products. It will be up to governments to enforce that outputs are equitably distributed to the populace. Countries without natural resources, or ones with corrupt governments, will continue to have serious, and likely worsening, problems.

Thought experiment: If no thought workers are needed to design or engineer a Ferrari, what is needed? My answer is time and natural resources (include energy).

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