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Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by adan1719 »

rvz wrote: post #42

> GPT‑6 Astra is rolling out today to a limited set of organizations and over the coming days will become available to all ChatGPT Plus, Pro, Business, and Enterprise users, as well as through the OpenAI API and AWS. Looks like OpenAI is already having issues with this release and are scrambling to get everything ready due to the recent outage ahead of the press releases. Leads me to question: Did humans deploy the m…

AI releases are like religious ceremonies. You are not allowed to disrupt them. The new system card is the gospel.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by billypilgrim »

XCSme wrote: post #333

It's fun, but every new model release makes me even less interested to create cool stuff. Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?

„The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.“ -Mitch Hedberg

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by czk »

bmenrigh wrote: post #397

> GPT‑6 Astra brings together years of research and big bets across pre-training Do we know if they’ve finally completed another pre-training run, or is this building off the same pre-training base they’ve been using since the GPT-4 days?

the last model to use the gpt-4o base model was gpt 5.1, since then its been new pre-trains but this is a new one entirely to itself

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by namarie »

zug_zug wrote: post #381
intenex wrote: post #248

The ARC-AGI-3 scorecard is extremely misleading given that it clearly states itself that "with [the responses API] harness, we estimate Sol would score in the ballpark of ~30%." but it shows a score of 7.8% for GPT-5.6 Sol presumably since if they updated the percentage for GPT-5.6 Sol to the score it would receive with the responses API harness they used for GPT-6 Astra they'd have to do the same for the percentage…

> I'd be curious to hear takes on what would make you think Astra is yet to be AGI, and what would still need to be achieved for this to effectively be AGI from this point forward. To me AGI is all about the "G" general (we already had the AI part). General meaning universal, everything. It's not a function of knowledge or specific hardcoded tests, it's that you could give it a test it's never heard of before and nev…

Most of the list reads more like ASI than AGI.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by Buttons840 »

Planktonne wrote: post #256

I'm sure it's going to do great on all sorts of benchmarks, but the video--the actual marketing video that if anything is incentivised to overstate things--is full of careful cuts just before it would do anything that still wouldn't actually be that impressive. It's AGI, and it's going to upload photos, or change a background slide colour. Even the people hyping it up, who believe that it's really artificial intellig…

The tone of the marketing video is a bit irritating to me as someone who has been laid off and feels cheated and fearful of AI.

It shows people who seem to have very full and rich lives, and the reason they do is because they use ChatGPT. These are the people smart enough to say things like "do what needs to be done", or "change the background to make it look better"--insights like these are why they make the big bucks.

On the one hand, I think this is an accurate depiction of the future. There is no meritocracy here. Some people have access to the best AIs and can speak a sentence and get great results, and the rest of us don't have access and so we're the poors. The happy presentation doesn't match the way I'm feeling.

I do wonder how rich CEOs will justify earning 500x as much as their employees when they're just another person that's dumber than an AI. Why are they paid so much again?

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by zachthewf »

dalemhurley wrote: post #284

OpenAI is killing it now that they are more focused. Killing projects like Sora et al have seen it go from irrelevant to level footing with Anthropic. Sol is so much better than Fable 5. Then we get Astra (yet to use it) few days after Fable 5.1 (which is very impressive). Codex is slightly better than Claude Code. Good on Sam Altman getting back to basics and turning OpenAI around.

I’ve found Sol performance to be incredibly spiky. It has tremendous IQ and can fix very difficult bugs. But it is horrible at design (both visual and system design), anything that involves thinking about users or UX, and massively overcomplicates almost all work.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by cnxhk »

zug_zug wrote: post #381
intenex wrote: post #248

The ARC-AGI-3 scorecard is extremely misleading given that it clearly states itself that "with [the responses API] harness, we estimate Sol would score in the ballpark of ~30%." but it shows a score of 7.8% for GPT-5.6 Sol presumably since if they updated the percentage for GPT-5.6 Sol to the score it would receive with the responses API harness they used for GPT-6 Astra they'd have to do the same for the percentage…

> I'd be curious to hear takes on what would make you think Astra is yet to be AGI, and what would still need to be achieved for this to effectively be AGI from this point forward. To me AGI is all about the "G" general (we already had the AI part). General meaning universal, everything. It's not a function of knowledge or specific hardcoded tests, it's that you could give it a test it's never heard of before and nev…

This is more like ASI instead of AGI

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by shostack »

brokencode wrote: post #374
jdprgm wrote: post #288

Is anyone else just exhausted by the pace of all this. The models change constantly and relentlessly and so does the pricing, basically weekly at this point between all the labs. It feels nearly impossible to have any rigorous approach when choosing a particular model and price point for a task and more like blindly picking one. The time period needed to actually get familiar with various models to a degree you can i…

You really don’t need to watch it that closely. If the model you’re using today is working well, just stick with it. If one day you open up Claude Code and it’s Opus 5.1 now instead of Opus 5, no big deal. It probably will work about the same as it did before. Maybe a little better. Or if you’re on Codex and some new cool Claude model comes out, no worries. There will probably be a similar new model for Codex within…

One suggestion is to make a list or make a skill to have your agent keep a list of things you do not feel work well with today's models. And then, when new models come out, periodically, revisit items on that list to see if you get better results.
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