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Re: GPT-6 Astra

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> GPT‑6 Astra brings together years of research and big bets across pre-training

Do we know if they’ve finally completed another pre-training run, or is this building off the same pre-training base they’ve been using since the GPT-4 days?

Re: GPT-6 Astra

#402

The ARC-AGI-3 scorecard is extremely misleading given that it clearly states itself that "with [the responses API] harness, we estimate Sol would score in the ballpark of ~30%." but it shows a score of 7.8% for GPT-5.6 Sol presumably since if they updated the percentage for GPT-5.6 Sol to the score it would receive with the responses API harness they used for GPT-6 Astra they'd have to do the same for the percentage…

> I'd be curious to hear takes on what would make you think Astra is yet to be AGI, and what would still need to be achieved for this to effectively be AGI from this point forward. To me AGI is all about the "G" general (we already had the AI part). General meaning universal, everything. It's not a function of knowledge or specific hardcoded tests, it's that you could give it a test it's never heard of before and nev…

It also cannot do tasks it wasn't trained for. It can extend texts, read images and click on a desktop, but only because it's made for that.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

#403

I'm sure it's going to do great on all sorts of benchmarks, but the video--the actual marketing video that if anything is incentivised to overstate things--is full of careful cuts just before it would do anything that still wouldn't actually be that impressive. It's AGI, and it's going to upload photos, or change a background slide colour. Even the people hyping it up, who believe that it's really artificial intellig…

The benchmarks do looks good (I mean: they literally spank the latest Anthropic benchmarks of two days ago in every single benchmark) but the promotional vid is so cheesy.

They decided to use the iconic Herman Miller Eames chair if I'm not mistaken:

https://youtu.be/s5zyhGMMPKs

And that's basically 50% of the vid looking "classy".

I don't know if it's farcical but at this point --maybe I'm jaded-- I'm expecting more than a kid rocketship I can print on my Bambu Lab A1.

Now I'd say the promotional vid is actually good. But it's marketing: so it's a good vid, but cheesy good.

Doesn't mean GPT-6 Astra is good or bad: looks solid from the numbers.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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post #288

Is anyone else just exhausted by the pace of all this. The models change constantly and relentlessly and so does the pricing, basically weekly at this point between all the labs. It feels nearly impossible to have any rigorous approach when choosing a particular model and price point for a task and more like blindly picking one. The time period needed to actually get familiar with various models to a degree you can i…

I just use Claude Opus and the GLM series. Nothing’s really changed for my workflow in the last 6 months.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

#405
post #42

> GPT‑6 Astra is rolling out today to a limited set of organizations and over the coming days will become available to all ChatGPT Plus, Pro, Business, and Enterprise users, as well as through the OpenAI API and AWS. Looks like OpenAI is already having issues with this release and are scrambling to get everything ready due to the recent outage ahead of the press releases. Leads me to question: Did humans deploy the m…

AI releases are like religious ceremonies. You are not allowed to disrupt them. The new system card is the gospel.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

#406
post #335

It's fun, but every new model release makes me even less interested to create cool stuff. Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?

„The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.“ -Mitch Hedberg

Re: GPT-6 Astra

#407

> GPT‑6 Astra brings together years of research and big bets across pre-training Do we know if they’ve finally completed another pre-training run, or is this building off the same pre-training base they’ve been using since the GPT-4 days?

the last model to use the gpt-4o base model was gpt 5.1, since then its been new pre-trains but this is a new one entirely to itself

Re: GPT-6 Astra

#408

The ARC-AGI-3 scorecard is extremely misleading given that it clearly states itself that "with [the responses API] harness, we estimate Sol would score in the ballpark of ~30%." but it shows a score of 7.8% for GPT-5.6 Sol presumably since if they updated the percentage for GPT-5.6 Sol to the score it would receive with the responses API harness they used for GPT-6 Astra they'd have to do the same for the percentage…

> I'd be curious to hear takes on what would make you think Astra is yet to be AGI, and what would still need to be achieved for this to effectively be AGI from this point forward. To me AGI is all about the "G" general (we already had the AI part). General meaning universal, everything. It's not a function of knowledge or specific hardcoded tests, it's that you could give it a test it's never heard of before and nev…

Most of the list reads more like ASI than AGI.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

#409

I'm sure it's going to do great on all sorts of benchmarks, but the video--the actual marketing video that if anything is incentivised to overstate things--is full of careful cuts just before it would do anything that still wouldn't actually be that impressive. It's AGI, and it's going to upload photos, or change a background slide colour. Even the people hyping it up, who believe that it's really artificial intellig…

The tone of the marketing video is a bit irritating to me as someone who has been laid off and feels cheated and fearful of AI.

It shows people who seem to have very full and rich lives, and the reason they do is because they use ChatGPT. These are the people smart enough to say things like "do what needs to be done", or "change the background to make it look better"--insights like these are why they make the big bucks.

On the one hand, I think this is an accurate depiction of the future. There is no meritocracy here. Some people have access to the best AIs and can speak a sentence and get great results, and the rest of us don't have access and so we're the poors. The happy presentation doesn't match the way I'm feeling.

I do wonder how rich CEOs will justify earning 500x as much as their employees when they're just another person that's dumber than an AI. Why are they paid so much again?

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