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Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by manlymuppet »

I have nothing to say about the actual model, but unrelated--why do so many of these demos include people buying things autonomously?

Even if I did trust an AI to get everything right, it's not like the AI can read my mind.

If I was ordering food normally and without AI, I would want more control over the process--looking over the options, prices, thinking about what I really want. People don't know what they really want until they've thought about it a bit, so why do AI companies make it seem like a description is all that's required?

All the context in the world cannot accurately predict how I'll react to things I haven't seen. The problem is people treating this like something that needs a solution. It doesn't. If you want to make my life easier with AI, just make it easier to do stuff. I don't want you to pick things that I actively enjoy picking myself.

(Also not everyone has a cushy job in an AI lab that makes it so you won't miss $30 if the AI messes up haha.)

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by bmenrigh »

> GPT‑6 Astra brings together years of research and big bets across pre-training

Do we know if they’ve finally completed another pre-training run, or is this building off the same pre-training base they’ve been using since the GPT-4 days?

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by roundabout-host »

zug_zug wrote: post #420
intenex wrote: post #272

The ARC-AGI-3 scorecard is extremely misleading given that it clearly states itself that "with [the responses API] harness, we estimate Sol would score in the ballpark of ~30%." but it shows a score of 7.8% for GPT-5.6 Sol presumably since if they updated the percentage for GPT-5.6 Sol to the score it would receive with the responses API harness they used for GPT-6 Astra they'd have to do the same for the percentage…

> I'd be curious to hear takes on what would make you think Astra is yet to be AGI, and what would still need to be achieved for this to effectively be AGI from this point forward. To me AGI is all about the "G" general (we already had the AI part). General meaning universal, everything. It's not a function of knowledge or specific hardcoded tests, it's that you could give it a test it's never heard of before and nev…

It also cannot do tasks it wasn't trained for. It can extend texts, read images and click on a desktop, but only because it's made for that.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by TacticalCoder »

Planktonne wrote: post #281

I'm sure it's going to do great on all sorts of benchmarks, but the video--the actual marketing video that if anything is incentivised to overstate things--is full of careful cuts just before it would do anything that still wouldn't actually be that impressive. It's AGI, and it's going to upload photos, or change a background slide colour. Even the people hyping it up, who believe that it's really artificial intellig…

The benchmarks do looks good (I mean: they literally spank the latest Anthropic benchmarks of two days ago in every single benchmark) but the promotional vid is so cheesy.

They decided to use the iconic Herman Miller Eames chair if I'm not mistaken:

https://youtu.be/s5zyhGMMPKs

And that's basically 50% of the vid looking "classy".

I don't know if it's farcical but at this point --maybe I'm jaded-- I'm expecting more than a kid rocketship I can print on my Bambu Lab A1.

Now I'd say the promotional vid is actually good. But it's marketing: so it's a good vid, but cheesy good.

Doesn't mean GPT-6 Astra is good or bad: looks solid from the numbers.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

jdprgm wrote: post #317

Is anyone else just exhausted by the pace of all this. The models change constantly and relentlessly and so does the pricing, basically weekly at this point between all the labs. It feels nearly impossible to have any rigorous approach when choosing a particular model and price point for a task and more like blindly picking one. The time period needed to actually get familiar with various models to a degree you can i…

I just use Claude Opus and the GLM series. Nothing’s really changed for my workflow in the last 6 months.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by TaupeRanger »

MrAbstract wrote: post #414
Chinjut wrote: post #350

What is going to become of life for those of us who do not work at AI labs and are unlikely to be hired by AI labs, despite all the years we put into learning coding, math, etc, as we were told to do? Those of us who made the mistake of studying anything other than machine learning. How will we make a living? (We don't live in a world that seems likely to distribute gains widely instead of largely to the handful of a…

I have exactly the same thoughts - or perhaps slightly bleaker ones - evry time I read this relentless stream of news about new model releases. I’m tired of all the enthusiastic comments about how excited everyone is about the latest benchmark results and so on. I have a strong suspicion that many of those comments are written by people who are already financially independent, have millions in stocks, and can just si…

Public opinion and politicians will only notice when the job losses are massive, unfortunately. Right now, unemployment rates are still stable. We can only hope they will notice before things fall off a cliff (if they do).

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by adan1719 »

rvz wrote: post #42

> GPT‑6 Astra is rolling out today to a limited set of organizations and over the coming days will become available to all ChatGPT Plus, Pro, Business, and Enterprise users, as well as through the OpenAI API and AWS. Looks like OpenAI is already having issues with this release and are scrambling to get everything ready due to the recent outage ahead of the press releases. Leads me to question: Did humans deploy the m…

AI releases are like religious ceremonies. You are not allowed to disrupt them. The new system card is the gospel.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by billypilgrim »

XCSme wrote: post #367

It's fun, but every new model release makes me even less interested to create cool stuff. Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?

„The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.“ -Mitch Hedberg

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by czk »

bmenrigh wrote: post #442

> GPT‑6 Astra brings together years of research and big bets across pre-training Do we know if they’ve finally completed another pre-training run, or is this building off the same pre-training base they’ve been using since the GPT-4 days?

the last model to use the gpt-4o base model was gpt 5.1, since then its been new pre-trains but this is a new one entirely to itself

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by kypro »

gavinray wrote: post #392
Chinjut wrote: post #350

What is going to become of life for those of us who do not work at AI labs and are unlikely to be hired by AI labs, despite all the years we put into learning coding, math, etc, as we were told to do? Those of us who made the mistake of studying anything other than machine learning. How will we make a living? (We don't live in a world that seems likely to distribute gains widely instead of largely to the handful of a…

> How will we make a living? Swap to a career path that requires physical automation, since we're still about 10-20 years out on that front. My backup plan is being a personal trainer.

> My backup plan is being a personal trainer.

AIs are really good at being personal trainers and seem to be far more educated and informed than most I know.

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