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Damn, never thought it was this much! I thought postal voting was mostly for people living abroad and less-abled ones that couldn’t physically go to a voting station.
Is this common in other countries?
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You need an ID to drive, buy alcohol, buy cigarettes, board a plane. And people manage to do all those things.
You can do all that with a driving license, but a driving license is not a proof of citizenship and thus of your eligibility to vote. In Europe, you can't get a regular ID without being a citizen. So having an ID automatically means you're eligible to vote.
Nitpick: E.g. Norwegian ID cards can be had by any legal resident. The card will say that you're not a citizen though, so your point about that stands.
Re driving license: Driving license is a valid form of ID for voting here. All eligible people are on the voting rolls automatically (unlike the absurd american system), and the driving license is merely used to prove you are who you say you are.
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Exactly. It's incredible how partisan some peoples information bubbles must be to not see this for what it is. All of these changes are based on the president making comments like the following: > "the cheating on mail-in voting is legendary," Which he has attempted to prove going back years. And every time it's been found that it essentially doesn't happen. And I believe, the few instances of voter fraud that have b…
Another reason is that if people only have one day to vote, it’s much easier to disenfranchise their vote just by delaying or inconveniencing them. Texas recently tried this by changing where people were allowed to vote, causing mass confusion. https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/el...
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The comparison to western European countries doesn't hold up. Speaking from Norway: yes, it's true you have to provide ID to vote, both in national and local elections. The difference is that obtaining ID is trivial , to the point where essentially everyone here legally has ID. I wouldn't be surprised if the most common way for someone not to have ID would literally be "all of it was in my luggage and the airline los…
You need an ID to drive, buy alcohol, buy cigarettes, board a plane. And people manage to do all those things.
Until recently in the UK you did not need any ID to vote, that was introduced recently as an echo to the US stolen election conspiracy, as demagogues love to steal ideas from each other.
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You need an ID to drive, buy alcohol, buy cigarettes, board a plane. And people manage to do all those things.
You can do all that with a driving license, but a driving license is not a proof of citizenship and thus of your eligibility to vote. In Europe, you can't get a regular ID without being a citizen. So having an ID automatically means you're eligible to vote.
> One third of all Americans cast their ballots by mail Damn, never thought it was this much! I thought postal voting was mostly for people living abroad and less-abled ones that couldn’t physically go to a voting station. Is this common in other countries?
[1]: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/how-the-world-s-most-f...
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He's spent years telling his supporters not to vote by mail. So during the election when there are problems with the mail, those will primarily affect the other party. That's enough to steal an election without more steps.
Having bare minimum protections against invalid voters , illegal immigrants or otherwise, is a basic precaution that every country on Earth except America does. The honor system we have here is absurdly lenient. I understand the Democrat desire to oppose everything Trump proposes, but imagine if in The Netherlands you can waltz in and say you are this person or that person, without any ID check whatsoever. Europeans…
They didn't prove any of their claims, and several even went to prison for contempt because they refused to substantiate their claims in front of a judge.
HN rules says to be kind and not call names, but you are either willfully ignorant or a liar, and in both cases you are complicit in a soft coup attempt.
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Having bare minimum protections against invalid voters , illegal immigrants or otherwise, is a basic precaution that every country on Earth except America does. The honor system we have here is absurdly lenient. I understand the Democrat desire to oppose everything Trump proposes, but imagine if in The Netherlands you can waltz in and say you are this person or that person, without any ID check whatsoever. Europeans…
> imagine if in The Netherlands you can waltz in and say you are this person or that person That's not at all how it works. Typically, you do need to present ID to register. You also need to verify your address on the day of voting. If someone does commit fraud, it's easy to detect: as soon as the real voter tries to vote, the system will detect a "double vote." The fact that this almost never happens suggests that t…
And which of the two people are lying? Would you have to... verify ID to figure that out?
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You can do all that with a driving license, but a driving license is not a proof of citizenship and thus of your eligibility to vote. In Europe, you can't get a regular ID without being a citizen. So having an ID automatically means you're eligible to vote.
This is not true. For example not every citizen can vote (people under guardianship or criminals) and not citizens can vote in local elections in the EU, if they came from another EU country.
The point I tried to make is that with the system we have here it's much less of a hassle to prove you're eligible to vote. The system wants you to be able to vote, and to be able to do that easily.
Given that they are dedicated to causing chaos in the midterms, how is it best countered? Whisper campaigns to tell all your friends to vote in person? When he loses, what stops him from putting troops in the streets? Is the recourse just wait until he goes? We all see what's happening, how do we meet the moment?
I'm skeptical that the federal government can be saved. I suspect we will experience a process of balkanization.