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Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by hyperhello »

skybrian wrote: post #80

I'm wondering how easy the USPS is to route around. In California's last election, there were 2,758 drop-box locations and 3,546 polling locations. In cities, these are often within walking distance. In rural areas, they might not be so convenient. So it seems like, at least for returning ballots, any USPS snafus would affect rural voters (which skew Republican) more than urban? Delivering is another question. I wond…

No, the procedures are designed to reject more votes in blue areas, just like the procedures that somehow conclude that people named Williams, John, or Washington should be dropped from the rolls for being similarly named as other people named Williams, John, or Washington.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by doc_ick »

LastTrain wrote: post #78
Geeek wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One can observe and accuse based on that observation. What 'sources' do you expect to see?

He’s just demanding the same kind of rigor he demands from Trump about rigged elections. Here you go RickWagoner the Republican Governor of famously liberal Wyoming smells something fishy too: https://www.codyenterprise.com/news/local/article_7f688e37-3...

Don’t worry, rickwagoner will find a way not to believe this source. Maybe because it uses https instead of http.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by snypher »

grim_io wrote: post #82
peterleiser wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1 million ballots at 10,000 per batch means 100 batches. It seems they will use 400 ballots from each batch as a sample, and if anything is wrong for one of those 400 sample ballots, then the entire batch of 10,000 is sent back. Some nefarious actor could find 100 messed up ballots and include one in each sample of 400, and viola! 100 ballots invalidates 1 million votes. That's quite a system they got there.

Maybe I'm stupid, but why would sending back mean invalid? It gets sent back, it gets investigated and fixed, and back it goes. Am I missing something?

Everyone wants a winner on the day, and if the votes are pushed back it goes into 'hanging chad' time, which some appointed judge can just decide if the votes are included / the winner.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by doc_ick »

thataccount wrote: post #64
wat10000 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fun thing about being extremely vague is that it's inherently unsearchable. I can do a search and find reports of USPIS abuses, but I have no idea if they're the ones you're referring to or not, because you didn't say what you were referring to. And I'm not about to spend a bunch of time trying to work out which ones you meant and how they might connect to voting by mail when you can't be bothered to give even th…

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All right Mike Lindell calm down

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by muwtyhg »

thataccount wrote: post #46
wat10000 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Specific" would involve some sort of detail about what these abuses were, or when they happened, or something beyond just "previous abuses of the US Postal Inspections Bureau."

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How does the article you linked support your point that mail-in voting is abused or rife with fraud?

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by nijave »

fhdkweig wrote: post #38
mchristen wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then voting needs to be a national holiday with plenty of polling locations.

While I think that making it a national holiday would be a good idea because it would maximize the number of eligible voters, it would still disenfranchise some people. There are jobs that have to be done 24/7/365 (mostly safety jobs), therefor there will be someone who is stuck at work that day. There are people who work at power companies on Christmas Day just to make sure the lights on Christmas trees light up. I…

I think it's roughly the same in Ohio

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by majormajor »

cogman10 wrote: post #49

Regardless what anyone thinks about the security of voting in the US. I'd hope that they could see how massively upending multiple states' voting systems 2 months before the midterms is a really bad idea. Even with the best intentions, implementing such a sweeping untested change so rapidly is a horrible idea. (No, I don't support it regardless, but surely even if you do you could recognize that the timeframe is way…

There's a voted-into-oblivion reply to this from someone trying to both-sides things "I don't want to hear about it when it was changed quickly for Covid too".

but it doesn't work...anything then was done under literally the same President we have today?

That's pretty damn hilarious: *don't complain to me about the Trump admin fucking with the voting system on short notice in 2026 since the Trump admin also fucked with the voting system on short notice in 2020!"

(At least there was a major national emergency going on that time...)

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It's a point in favor of the "malicious" theory, though. Here's arguably the person who would have the most reason to not fuck with things last-minute, who complained at no end about the results, is now making his own last minute changes... hmmmm.... must still believe he got cheated, and is intentionally trying to cheat instead.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by margalabargala »

RickJWagner wrote: post #75
toomuchtodo wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean where the sitting president said they were going to try to rig the midterms? > Provide reputable sources, we can discuss it. His Truth Social account is public. Do we agree that is a reputable source? https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/trum...

The article you’ve provided clearly says Trumps dialogue is not to be taken literally. ( It does say there are other ways the election might be tinkered with, but these are for another discussion. ) I don’t find that article to be particularly worrying.

That's not what the article says. It says Trump needs the appearance of winning elections, so cancelling is an empty threat.

Manufacturing the appearance of winning is the not-empty threat, rather is what TFA is chronicling.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

hackyhacky wrote: post #83
RickJWagner wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good majority of Americans want voter id. https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/28/politics/video/the-odds-voter... So a party calling for voter id is following the will of the people, while politicians opposing the will of the people are justifying the need for a fix, right?

> politicians opposing the will of the people are justifying the need for a fix, right? That's a funny way of saying that they support the status quo, which has never been provably linked to large-scale voter fraud. If you want voter ID, here's the procedure: establish evidence showing that its need outweighs its disadvantages, then pass a bill in Congress, then implement the bill. Signing an Executive Order that dem…

If voter ID was accompanied by mandatory free ID services at the polls, it could be a net good. Short of that, it's definitely more harm than good.
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