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Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by wat10000 »

thataccount wrote: post #46
wat10000 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Specific" would involve some sort of detail about what these abuses were, or when they happened, or something beyond just "previous abuses of the US Postal Inspections Bureau."

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The fun thing about being extremely vague is that it's inherently unsearchable. I can do a search and find reports of USPIS abuses, but I have no idea if they're the ones you're referring to or not, because you didn't say what you were referring to. And I'm not about to spend a bunch of time trying to work out which ones you meant and how they might connect to voting by mail when you can't be bothered to give even the slightest bit of information.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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CamperBob2 wrote: post #59
thataccount wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-r... Here is one instance among many.

What does that have to do with anything discussed here? Wait'll you hear about the Comstock Act and what the USPS has done to enforce that .

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Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by llm_nerd »

cogman10 wrote: post #49

Regardless what anyone thinks about the security of voting in the US. I'd hope that they could see how massively upending multiple states' voting systems 2 months before the midterms is a really bad idea. Even with the best intentions, implementing such a sweeping untested change so rapidly is a horrible idea. (No, I don't support it regardless, but surely even if you do you could recognize that the timeframe is way…

There is something incredibly cancerous when a certain party abhors democracy, and does everything they can to undermine the voting rights or access to groups they think won't vote for them.

I would expect most Americans would see this as grotesquely anti-American, and absolutely against the principals of the country. Instead it barely makes news and is just another "get whatever advantage you can" tactic.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by thataccount »

wat10000 wrote: post #61
thataccount wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The fun thing about being extremely vague is that it's inherently unsearchable. I can do a search and find reports of USPIS abuses, but I have no idea if they're the ones you're referring to or not, because you didn't say what you were referring to. And I'm not about to spend a bunch of time trying to work out which ones you meant and how they might connect to voting by mail when you can't be bothered to give even th…

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Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by llm_nerd »

hackyhacky wrote: post #7

> Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems Yes. That's the point. The administration doesn't care about fixing whatever hypothetical mail ballot fraud may or may not exist; they are doing this to inject chaos into the election results, giving them cover to claim any result they want or even to just throw out the results entirely. Catastrophic problems are the means to that end.

It isn't just injecting chaos, but instead is trying to engineer an outcome. Find every mechanism and group that is likely to vote against you, and do everything possible to disenfranchise those voters. They've already gotten a ruling that ballots received after a cutoff do not count, regardless of the reason, so now they're engineering assurances that they get to choose from where ballots can be selectively delayed.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by uncSoft »

wpm wrote: post #24
SoftTalker wrote: post #10

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How much fraud is proven to be occurring due to mail-in ballots?

Statistically 0

Functionally, a literal handful per season which are typically caught and prosecuted.

The right leaning Brookings and Heritage foundations dug into the numbers and found this

"Across the entire country, and utilizing a maximally inclusive estimate, between six and 46 cases of mail voting fraud were identified in each general election"

Table:

Year Total mail voting fraud percentage (out of total mail ballots cast) 2016 0.000089% 2018 0.000024% 2020 0.000051% 2022 0.000010% Average 0.000043%

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/mail-voting-in-the-us-dat...

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Post by folkrav »

sethherr wrote: post #60
gradus_ad wrote: post #58

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Then it’s necessary to make voting a federal holiday. Like it is in other countries.

We don't have holidays here, but employers are required to provide us with a certain amount of consecutive free hours (which specific number I can't remember) inside voting hours.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Post by RickJWagner »

MithrilTuxedo wrote: post #28
RickJWagner wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The fact that reputable sources were not provided to justify the need for fixes has been reputable source enough. Bullshit is produced for the effect saying it will have.

A good majority of Americans want voter id.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/28/politics/video/the-odds-voter...

So a party calling for voter id is following the will of the people, while politicians opposing the will of the people are justifying the need for a fix, right?

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