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Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by ascorbic »

haunter wrote: post #20
embedding-shape wrote: post #17

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> Alright everyone, message received. I was not expecting this response, I honestly had no idea before I made the post The source got deleted, what is the backlash even about? People don't like .net software running on Linux? > Like I said, the code is experimental. A proof of concept showing that PDN-on-WINE is possible. It's not finished. I can literally just delete it. It won't be part of the next build. This almo…

>The source got deleted, what is the backlash even about? It's Bluesky, they hate AI so the mob bullied him to delete the posts https://web.archive.org/web/20260901203707/https://bsky.app/... >Paint .NET-on-WINE has never been possible because of Direct2D, which WINE has really struggled with (for good reasons). >So like ... why not reimplement Direct2D-in-Paint .NET? Remove the dependency on WINE completely. Clean r…

> It's Bluesky, they hate AI

There is a very vocal section of the userbase who are vehemently anti-AI. Blocklists help avoid them (using them or being on them). However there is also a really good AI community on there. It's generally a lot less commercially-focused than on Twitter, for better and worse. It helps that atproto itself is really good for agents. They know how to use it, and the data is all open and accessible. Lots of people have been experimenting with agents that "live" on Bluesky, some of which are really interesting.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by thorum »

mortenjorck wrote: post #33
tech234a wrote: post #13

Apparently the author got a surprising amount of backlash on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rickbrew.bsky.social/post/3muiv4phe...

It looks like the original post was removed, but there are some screenshots going around (unfortunately X doesn't let you view full-size unless you're logged in): https://x.com/ChrisCroy/status/2094867317163540937

There’s nothing surprising or confusing here.

Outside of tech communities like HN, I see anti-AI rhetoric everywhere. A very large number of humans see AI as a purely evil and parasitic thing, no matter how it’s used. It’s an especially common view among artists and young people.

Whether or not you agree about AI, when you’re communicating to a wider audience, you have to read the room.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by vunderba »

colkassad wrote: post #77
vunderba wrote: post #30

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I guess more digital art options on Linux are always good, but that aside, is there even a good reason to use it when something like Krita exists? It's always worked flawlessly on my linux machine (Mint). https://github.com/kde/krita

Paint.net is my go-to image editing software. I'm not a digital artist or professional photographer, I just need to downsize/crop/adjust the occasional image. I don't need the kitchen sink. Regular MS Paint is annoyingly basic and Krita, GIMP, et al., are too much UI-wise. That said, I use Linux daily but not for images so not sure if there is a Paint.net analog on Linux already.

Back when I was still on Windows(XP days), I made heavy use of Paint.net. Given Microsoft’s penchant for gobbling up smaller companies, I was always a bit surprised that they never bought the company and integrated paint.net as the built-in OS replacement for the original MS Paint.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by surcap526 »

mortenjorck wrote: post #33
tech234a wrote: post #13

Apparently the author got a surprising amount of backlash on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rickbrew.bsky.social/post/3muiv4phe...

It looks like the original post was removed, but there are some screenshots going around (unfortunately X doesn't let you view full-size unless you're logged in): https://x.com/ChrisCroy/status/2094867317163540937

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Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by superdisk »

haunter wrote: post #16

Here is the source code of the last open source (MIT) release from 2008 Wonder if it can be built for modern Linux https://web.archive.org/web/20080000000000*/http://www.dotpd...

Miguel de Icaza took that code and got it running on Mono back in the day, and a few months ago for kicks I compiled it and it still runs. Quite buggy though.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by redox99 »

solid_fuel wrote: post #75
redox99 wrote: post #63

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700k LoC of human written code is probably like 2M LoC of LLM "slop". That's probably around 8M tokens. Assuming a single fable agent that one shots the new source code at 30 tok/s, that's 74 hours. Of course it needs wayyy more tokens because it wouldn't one shot it, plus the reasoning tokens. Generation speed would be faster because you'd have many simultaneous agents though. Bun rewrite took 6 days of coding and w…

> Bun rewrite took 6 days of coding and was a similar number of LoC, so I think a couple of weeks is definitely reasonable, although you probably need more than 5 Claude subs. Bun had numerous standardized and extensive javascript test suites to validate the slop code against. I doubt paint.net has test coverage anywhere near that complete, and without it using LLMs to rewrite something is a much larger risk. Besides…

Obviously the agent would need to build a very extensive test setup for Paint.NET, a lot of it with computer use or something similar.

Opening the same files, performing the same clicks, etc should output the same on paint.net and the clone.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by wccrawford »

vipa123 wrote: post #78
gnuplustoejam wrote: post #72

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Using a domain that resembles a racial slur isn't a good look.

I must be naive, but how does that resemble?

I'm guessing the n0g part. I would never have thought that if someone hadn't said it. I'd have thought of "egg nog" long before a racial slur.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by raincole »

thorum wrote: post #82
mortenjorck wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like the original post was removed, but there are some screenshots going around (unfortunately X doesn't let you view full-size unless you're logged in): https://x.com/ChrisCroy/status/2094867317163540937

There’s nothing surprising or confusing here. Outside of tech communities like HN, I see anti-AI rhetoric everywhere. A very large number of humans see AI as a purely evil and parasitic thing, no matter how it’s used. It’s an especially common view among artists and young people. Whether or not you agree about AI, when you’re communicating to a wider audience, you have to read the room.

It's BlueSky lol. If your way to 'read the room' is to read BlueSky replies then you're already in a pretty doomed position.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by gnuplustoejam »

Defletter wrote: post #76
idiotsecant wrote: post #46

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I'd say overall bluesky is better but boy howdy is it differently stupid sometimes.

Bluesky is pretty decent and has features that I like over X, but much of its user base are from the Great Xodus (pardon the pun): people who frame their switch to Bluesky as some kind of boycott of X, ie, a bunch of moralists. They didn't leave X because it's a hellscape of trashing and toxicity, no, they left because the politics changed. And so Bluesky is now saturated with people who are very opinionated, very lo…

Exile usually connotes being forced out from a place.

The distinction is important because no one asked them to leave.

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