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Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by rescbr »

muglug wrote: post #59
haunter wrote: post #20

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>The source got deleted, what is the backlash even about? It's Bluesky, they hate AI so the mob bullied him to delete the posts https://web.archive.org/web/20260901203707/https://bsky.app/... >Paint .NET-on-WINE has never been possible because of Direct2D, which WINE has really struggled with (for good reasons). >So like ... why not reimplement Direct2D-in-Paint .NET? Remove the dependency on WINE completely. Clean r…

> It's Bluesky, they hate AI That's not true. The Bluesky team are themselves pretty pro-AI and open about how LLMs are used to build Bluesky and are necessary for moderation. Lots of SWEs on Bluesky (e.g. me) use LLMs a lot and follow other people who do too. On the other hand, artists and writers on there generally hate AI and will gladly take time out of their day to loudly gang up on anyone they see as betraying…

Same feeling as well. Bluesky is also a place amenable to bots.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by gnuplustoejam »

Gander5739 wrote: post #62
mortenjorck wrote: post #33

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It looks like the original post was removed, but there are some screenshots going around (unfortunately X doesn't let you view full-size unless you're logged in): https://x.com/ChrisCroy/status/2094867317163540937

You can use a nitter instance: https://x.n0g.xyz/ChrisCroy/status/2094867317163540937

Using a domain that resembles a racial slur isn't a good look.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by margalabargala »

bakugo wrote: post #61
diath wrote: post #55

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Makes no sense. I don't see physical artists being upset that their pencils were manufactured in a factory instead of hand made.

That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

On the contrary I think that's an apt comparison. Look up the history of e.g. the Luddites. This isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened in human history.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by Aldipower »

gnuplustoejam wrote: post #56
diego_sandoval wrote: post #50

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What the hell is going on with those people (or bots?)?

Bluesky is a biker bar with an askew "safe space" sign awkwardly taped to the door.

Do not blame the bikers, they usually are very friendly people. :-)

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by solid_fuel »

redox99 wrote: post #63
jadar wrote: post #51

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The author says it's about 700k LoC that he's worked on for 20 years.[1] I don't know how many tokens that arrives at, but that seems non-trivial. [1] https://simonwillison.net/2026/Sep/2/rick-brewster/

700k LoC of human written code is probably like 2M LoC of LLM "slop". That's probably around 8M tokens. Assuming a single fable agent that one shots the new source code at 30 tok/s, that's 74 hours. Of course it needs wayyy more tokens because it wouldn't one shot it, plus the reasoning tokens. Generation speed would be faster because you'd have many simultaneous agents though. Bun rewrite took 6 days of coding and w…

> Bun rewrite took 6 days of coding and was a similar number of LoC, so I think a couple of weeks is definitely reasonable, although you probably need more than 5 Claude subs.

Bun had numerous standardized and extensive javascript test suites to validate the slop code against. I doubt paint.net has test coverage anywhere near that complete, and without it using LLMs to rewrite something is a much larger risk.

Besides which, Bun claims the rewrite took 6 days but they took months after that to finish hammering out the bugs and actually ship, so I don't really buy the original price tag or timeline on their rewrite.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by Defletter »

idiotsecant wrote: post #46
jmkni wrote: post #29

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People say X is toxic, but Bluesky really is on another level

I'd say overall bluesky is better but boy howdy is it differently stupid sometimes.

Bluesky is pretty decent and has features that I like over X, but much of its user base are from the Great Xodus (pardon the pun): people who frame their switch to Bluesky as some kind of boycott of X, ie, a bunch of moralists. They didn't leave X because it's a hellscape of trashing and toxicity, no, they left because the politics changed. And so Bluesky is now saturated with people who are very opinionated, very loud about it, and very willing to engage in trashing.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by colkassad »

vunderba wrote: post #30
nashashmi wrote: post #7

Paint.net used to be an open source collaboration project by Rick Brewster, a Microsoft Employee and the students at the University of Washington. Today it is a private closed source project accepting donations, and still headed by Rick Brewster.

I guess more digital art options on Linux are always good, but that aside, is there even a good reason to use it when something like Krita exists? It's always worked flawlessly on my linux machine (Mint). https://github.com/kde/krita

Paint.net is my go-to image editing software. I'm not a digital artist or professional photographer, I just need to downsize/crop/adjust the occasional image. I don't need the kitchen sink. Regular MS Paint is annoyingly basic and Krita, GIMP, et al., are too much UI-wise. That said, I use Linux daily but not for images so not sure if there is a Paint.net analog on Linux already.

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by vipa123 »

gnuplustoejam wrote: post #72
Gander5739 wrote: post #62

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You can use a nitter instance: https://x.n0g.xyz/ChrisCroy/status/2094867317163540937

Using a domain that resembles a racial slur isn't a good look.

I must be naive, but how does that resemble?

Re: Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

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Post by tkot »

I know nothing about writing an image editor or graphics programming but maybe someone here can fill me in - would it be more or less difficult ("would it take more or less tokens" is probably the right question to ask these days) to replace the Windows-specific APIs with cross-platform alternatives (I guess Skia instead of Direct2D and something like Avalonia or Uno instead of Win32-based UI?) instead of re-implementing Direct2D?
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