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Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by _whiteCaps_ »

lokar wrote: post #101
kingleopold wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it's not simple to call "he" did this. WH people, half? of the country supporting him for 2nd time, and wealthy people that donated so much too, it's never "he". Nothing big like that is one persons responsibility. Actions have cons. ? All elected and supported, especially AFTER how he and his supports lead the so many extra deaths in covid. I know your media does not bring facts but truth is out there.

Not half the country. Almost half of the people who voted.

IMO if you don't vote, you're tacitly agreeing with whoever gets voted into office.

(Although US voter suppression weakens this argument)

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Post by TheRealPomax »

consp wrote: post #20
andsoitis wrote: post #7

> “A more equal spread of the gold supply between North America, the United Kingdom, and the U.S. also helps to spread the risk.” They’re not exiting all the gold held in North America; instead they’re rebalancing so that for more resilience against a backdrop of increased geopolitical risk.

No, but "removing" around half of it from one place is quite a bit. Though I doubt any single physical kg ever moved more than a few meters to the buying countries vault. edit: They physically moved 27 tons, the rest was traded away and bought again in London.

That's the fun thing about gold. It's literal gold, not numbers on a spreadsheet. Moving it really means moving it: bars are stamped and owned, and if the owner wants to move them, those bars need to get transported to wherever the owner says they should be.

It's also the idiotic thing about gold, a metal that has no more or less inherent monetary value than a fiat currency =)

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Post by skrebbel »

andsoitis wrote: post #119
devin wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a hedge against the risk of the current government. Leaving a bunch here is part of the hedge. It's not as "multifaceted" as you're making it out to be.

Hey, I’m simply echoing what the Dutch government said. I’m taking them at face value since the Dutch are pretty direct.

The Dutch are pretty direct but not to Donald Trump, who has a famously thin skin and can cause a huge European crisis with a single tweet.

You have to see all European diplomacy through that lens. Everybody’s tiptoeing around the orange idiot’s feelings and meanwhile working hard to make sure we’re never again so dependent on a country that’s so untrustworthy. This gold move is one of the many little steps taken in that direction.

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Post by [deleted] »

lokar wrote: post #97
rootusrootus wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That explains how he got almost half the votes on election night, but it does not explain the 1/3 that still to this day support him 100%. There is a pretty substantial underlying problem in play and Trump is the symptom, but the problem is deeper than a malfunctioning political system.

It is almost unheard of in the US for an elected politician to poll lower than 30%, it seems to be a floor. This is for both parties, and all sorts of terrible behavior.

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Post by maxdo »

somenameforme wrote: post #60
maxdo wrote: post #29

Just in time before major European continental war begin. Strategic move. For the context : German airport was officially attacked by Russia . And that’s only one of many incidents. UK is on the radar of official Russian hawks for a very long time

That was a rather obvious false flag attempt, presumably from Ukraine. It was a weaponized drone, the first that would have been directly used against NATO, that was found just outside a Ukrainian plane and by amazing coincidence just sat there instead of detonating. When Russia wants to directly attack NATO they'll likely do exactly what the US/EU is doing and simply arm e.g. Iran/Houthis/etc with weapons/locations,…

Wow. This post serves as a great example on how propaganda can brainwash people brain. Sure , Ukraine whose survival solely depends on EU, plans a false flag attempt . To achieve what ? Russia openly attacked territory of eu with drones , infiltration, poison operations , not to mention Slovakia , Orban etc . What is there to prove for Ukraine ???

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Post by petcat »

triceratops wrote: post #110
petcat wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that FIFA is a corrupt European institution and that has nothing to do with the US. But maybe you're trying to make a No True Scotsman argument.

> The point is that FIFA is a corrupt European institution It has "international" right there in the name. The vast majority of its members are not "European" in any sense. Calling it "European" is offensive to those members and to the footballing world as a whole. It reeks of a colonial attitude. I'll ask you again: what actually affects how an organization runs? The place that it's registered in, or the people in c…

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Post by strictnein »

SH16q wrote: post #62
maxdo wrote: post #29

Just in time before major European continental war begin. Strategic move. For the context : German airport was officially attacked by Russia . And that’s only one of many incidents. UK is on the radar of official Russian hawks for a very long time

No, the German US lapdogs put out a statement that the drones in Leipzig “are known to us from other Russian hybrid operations and its war against Ukraine” and that they “pointed to a high degree of technical expertise”. So high in fact that the operation malfunctioned. Precisely what a false flag would do. The US indeed would like to expand the Ukrainian proxy war to the Baltics so it can carry out its own plans of…

A false flag attack would malfunction? Why not do damage to really up the reaction? Even after an explosion there's plenty of pieces left to investigate and figure out where the devices came from. Just throw some parts made in [insert target of false flag here] and you're all set.

> The US indeed would like to expand the Ukrainian proxy war to the Baltics so it can carry out its own plans of getting various oil rich countries.

What "oil rich" Baltic states are you referring to? Is the US going to takeover Norway?

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by 1attice »

roromainmain wrote: post #88

Considering the Netherlands’ strategic ties with the US, this sounds like quite a bold move. France doing so was one thing, but the Dutchs have always been rather Atlanticists.

They are also consummate antifascists, which I suppose is in tension now with atlanticism

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by petre »

appleappleapple wrote: post #3
jmclnx wrote: post #2

This shows how much trust in the US has declined due to Trump. Netherlands is not the only or first country to do this, other countries have started this too.

And this lost trust will not suddenly reappear when he leaves office. He has damaged our reputation for a generation

Trust in the US started to decline dating back in the Obama era when they listened to Merkel's phone etc. Trump has finally eroded what was left of it. Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe are still trying to keep a good relationship with thd US regardless, because they don't want to lose US support due to Trump's whims… err transactional diplomacy.
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