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Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by andsoitis »

tgv wrote: post #24
andsoitis wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voters cannot be held accountable for all the specific things the person they elected do. That much should be self-evident.

If they could have known or suspected those things, then yes, they bear the responsibility. And Trump's intentions were there for all to see.

> If they could have known or suspected those things, then yes, they bear the responsibility.

In a situation like this, I like to do a thought experiment where I replace "Trump" with "Republican voter" in a headline or a story to see whether that idea holds up.

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by bix6 »

AlexandrB wrote: post #77
triceratops wrote: post #67

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I'll say something controversial: Clinton and Harris were both better options than the guy who started his campaign mocking a reporter's disability. If voters had any sense it should've ended right there. The rationalizing, the "corrupt DNC" arguments and everything else is a cop-out.

Here's a real controversial opinion: If Clinton had won, the eventual backlash would be much greater and have elected a far more odious figure than Trump. America is lucky that Trump is kind of a bumbling oaf that channeled populist rage.

Disagree. Trump has done way more damage than Clinton ever could have. The backlash would’ve been similar to post Obama cuz the racists are also the sexists.

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by c-linkage »

andsoitis wrote: post #8
kingleopold wrote: post #5

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No it's not simple to call "he" did this. WH people, half? of the country supporting him for 2nd time, and wealthy people that donated so much too, it's never "he". Nothing big like that is one persons responsibility. Actions have cons. ? All elected and supported, especially AFTER how he and his supports lead the so many extra deaths in covid. I know your media does not bring facts but truth is out there.

Voters cannot be held accountable for all the specific things the person they elected do. That much should be self-evident.

Voters can be held accountable; he demonstrated exactly what he was the first time in office and then people voted for him again.

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by myrmidon »

ericmay wrote: post #71
kaon_2 wrote: post #4

It may be quirky for Americans to hear this, but one pivotal moment when it truly dawned on the average european citizen how corrupt the US has become, was when Trump phoned Infantino to drop a red card during the world cup. Blatant corruption for zero gain that even the Putin's and Xi Jin Pings never attempted. Any toddler could see how wrong it was and it was felt deeply in many hearts. Needless to say trust is clo…

> Blatant corruption for zero gain that even the Putin's and Xi Jin Pings never attempted.... was when Trump phoned Infantino to drop a red card during the world cup. FIFA, a largely European organization created by Europeans for a sport that Americans barely care about and in the center of multiple corruption scandals and controversies over the last few decades and you're really going to sit here and try to tell oth…

There is a big difference between some sports association being greedy/unethical and elected officials abusing their position of power (especially when they sit in the highest positions and there are zero consequences).

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by bix6 »

adolph wrote: post #45

Another interesting aspect to this story is the flow of value from US Treasuries to gold. Total gold held by central banks globally was valued at approximately $4tr at the start of 2026, surpassing, for the first time, the roughly $3.9tr in US Treasuries held by the same institutions. This marked a reordering of reserve asset preferences with significant long-term implications. [0] 0. https://www.investing.com/analys…

What are the long term implications? Gold can’t reasonably be the medium so new currency baskets?

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by petcat »

triceratops wrote: post #82
petcat wrote: post #76

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Is the UN a private organization legally incorporated in the US? The way that FIFA is in Europe/Switzerland?

Would FIFA be less corrupt if it were legally incorporated somewhere else? I didn't know registering an entity in another place automatically changed the character of the people that run it. That's magic. Literally mind-control.

The point is that FIFA is a corrupt European institution and that has nothing to do with the US.

But maybe you're trying to make a No True Scotsman argument.

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by lokar »

rootusrootus wrote: post #46
gwbas1c wrote: post #32

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Sadly, the way people vote is more complicated than you might believe. Trump is the symptom of malfunctioning system that doesn't give people good options in the ballot box.

That explains how he got almost half the votes on election night, but it does not explain the 1/3 that still to this day support him 100%. There is a pretty substantial underlying problem in play and Trump is the symptom, but the problem is deeper than a malfunctioning political system.

It is almost unheard of in the US for an elected politician to poll lower than 30%, it seems to be a floor. This is for both parties, and all sorts of terrible behavior.

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by justinhj »

GJim wrote: post #75
justinhj wrote: post #57

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Countries have different idioms.

Please explain?

In the US "Could care less" is the equivalent to the British expression "Couldn't care less". The intention and meaning is the same. So the original comment did mean to say what they said.

My point was that what may look like a mistake or a contradiction is just cultural development of natural language.

Another example is the British expression "It would be cheap at half the price"

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Post by verelo »

kingleopold wrote: post #5
appleappleapple wrote: post #3

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And this lost trust will not suddenly reappear when he leaves office. He has damaged our reputation for a generation

No it's not simple to call "he" did this. WH people, half? of the country supporting him for 2nd time, and wealthy people that donated so much too, it's never "he". Nothing big like that is one persons responsibility. Actions have cons. ? All elected and supported, especially AFTER how he and his supports lead the so many extra deaths in covid. I know your media does not bring facts but truth is out there.

This! I get frustrated when i hear folks in the US claim Trump has failed them. You failed yourselves. The system is falling apart and barely half of people turn up to participate in elections? What are the rest of us expected to take away from this? Apathy is what I take away from it, and that does not earn my trust.

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

GJim wrote: post #66
gwbas1c wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly, the way people vote is more complicated than you might believe. Trump is the symptom of malfunctioning system that doesn't give people good options in the ballot box.

Are you saying there was a worse option than Trump? Really? Because unless the alternative option was a diminutive Austrian with a dodgy 'tache, I find that rather hard to believe. The reality is America voted for Trump (TWICE!) because they wanted him. The rest of the world knows this, and is now acting accordingly. EDIT: Downvotes coming from the brainwashed MAGA crowd!

I disagree not because "brainwashed MAGA crowd" but because people saying "it can't be worse" are almost always wrong. Unless you're starving in the ruins of your house in one of the world's war zones, in which case you're likely focussed on survival, not saying that.

Pick any of the leader's third-rate third-tier henchmen or failsons for example of a worse option. Don't dismiss it out of hand.

People in the UK voted for Brexit because "well it can't be worse, can it?" They were suckers.

I don't disagree with the "The reality is" line.

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