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Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by ericmay »

kaon_2 wrote: post #4

It may be quirky for Americans to hear this, but one pivotal moment when it truly dawned on the average european citizen how corrupt the US has become, was when Trump phoned Infantino to drop a red card during the world cup. Blatant corruption for zero gain that even the Putin's and Xi Jin Pings never attempted. Any toddler could see how wrong it was and it was felt deeply in many hearts. Needless to say trust is clo…

> Blatant corruption for zero gain that even the Putin's and Xi Jin Pings never attempted.... was when Trump phoned Infantino to drop a red card during the world cup.

FIFA, a largely European organization created by Europeans for a sport that Americans barely care about and in the center of multiple corruption scandals and controversies over the last few decades and you're really going to sit here and try to tell others that the real wakeup call was when Trump made a phone call to ask that a star player who by many respects shouldn't have received a red card over at best a technicality in the first place be reinstated for the good of sport and competition...?

And you're also going to claim that this "level of corruption" is something Vladimir Putin or Xi Jingping and their corrupt authoritarian regimes would never dream of attempting?

I guess Donald Trump's phone call was the real last straw, and something like, idk, 6,500 migrant workers in Qatar dying to construct World Cup facilities is just another day at the anti-corruption office? [1]

I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic...

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/feb/23/r...

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by watwut »

mikewarot wrote: post #70
jmclnx wrote: post #2

This shows how much trust in the US has declined due to Trump. Netherlands is not the only or first country to do this, other countries have started this too.

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It is result of long term conservative project. And somehow you managed to blame non-conservatives for it.

Trump is a cause of destruction. He is literally making those decisions. He is to blame. Trump and project 2025 are what republicans and conservatives were trying to achieve for years and years. Again, it hapened intentionally.

But noooooo, must blame Obama. Anyone except directly responsable organizations and people.

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by andsoitis »

mg794613 wrote: post #58
andsoitis wrote: post #7

> “A more equal spread of the gold supply between North America, the United Kingdom, and the U.S. also helps to spread the risk.” They’re not exiting all the gold held in North America; instead they’re rebalancing so that for more resilience against a backdrop of increased geopolitical risk.

That is what the pamphlet says. Fact is, it was not a issue before, because of trust. "for more resilience against a backdrop of increased geopolitical risk." is just nice wording for "Trump is burning down all bridges".

> "for more resilience against a backdrop of increased geopolitical risk." is just nice wording for "Trump is burning down all bridges".

It is more multifaceted than that. To wit: they're leaving a substantial amount still in North America.

America's actions is a big part of it, but it isn't the only reason.

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by strictnein »

somenameforme wrote: post #60
maxdo wrote: post #29

Just in time before major European continental war begin. Strategic move. For the context : German airport was officially attacked by Russia . And that’s only one of many incidents. UK is on the radar of official Russian hawks for a very long time

That was a rather obvious false flag attempt, presumably from Ukraine. It was a weaponized drone, the first that would have been directly used against NATO, that was found just outside a Ukrainian plane and by amazing coincidence just sat there instead of detonating. When Russia wants to directly attack NATO they'll likely do exactly what the US/EU is doing and simply arm e.g. Iran/Houthis/etc with weapons/locations,…

> That was a rather obvious false flag attempt

No, it wasn't.

> That said I do expect Russia is likely involved in at least some of the incidents of weapons factories

They're involved in all of them.

> sleeper agents with no direct ties to Russia

This isn't a movie. They pay criminals to do criminal activity. They're not utilizing "sleeper agents" to burn down a building.

>When Russia wants to directly attack NATO they'll likely do exactly what the US/EU is doing and simply arm e.g. Iran/Houthis/etc with weapons/locations, let them push the button, and then go all Slava Allah or whatever while Russia is like 'oh we're not involved in this conflict you have with Iran.' Great precedent that's been set.

What does this even mean? Are you equating Ukraine with Iran and the Houthis?

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by AlexandrB »

triceratops wrote: post #67
gwbas1c wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly, the way people vote is more complicated than you might believe. Trump is the symptom of malfunctioning system that doesn't give people good options in the ballot box.

I'll say something controversial: Clinton and Harris were both better options than the guy who started his campaign mocking a reporter's disability. If voters had any sense it should've ended right there. The rationalizing, the "corrupt DNC" arguments and everything else is a cop-out.

Here's a real controversial opinion: If Clinton had won, the eventual backlash would be much greater and have elected a far more odious figure than Trump. America is lucky that Trump is kind of a bumbling oaf that channeled populist rage.

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by triceratops »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #59
dhosek wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He’s doing exactly what he said he would do when he ran. People who voted for him can very much be held accountable.

When he ran, did he say that he'd make tariff rates bounce around like a kangaroo on speed? No, I don't think he did. Did he say that he'd threaten to annex Canada and Greenland? Not that I recall. Did he say that he'd start a war with Iran? No, I'm pretty sure he said "No new wars." Look, he's a loose cannon. Everyone who voted for him should have known that . But no, he's not doing "exactly what he said he would do…

Is this sarcasm?

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by triceratops »

AlexandrB wrote: post #77
triceratops wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll say something controversial: Clinton and Harris were both better options than the guy who started his campaign mocking a reporter's disability. If voters had any sense it should've ended right there. The rationalizing, the "corrupt DNC" arguments and everything else is a cop-out.

Here's a real controversial opinion: If Clinton had won, the eventual backlash would be much greater and have elected a far more odious figure than Trump. America is lucky that Trump is kind of a bumbling oaf that channeled populist rage.

Maybe the backlash would've been in Congress, through the election of more extreme figures on the right and left.

Re: Dutch central bank moves share of gold from U.S., Canada to London

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Post by andsoitis »

maigret wrote: post #55
andsoitis wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voters cannot be held accountable for all the specific things the person they elected do. That much should be self-evident.

That’s the definition of democracy. Of course voting is significant and has consequences.

> That’s the definition of democracy.

In a democracy, it is the elected officials, who are meant to represent the voter, that are held accountable. Not the voter.

> Of course voting is significant and has consequences.

Tautology but also not relevant. How do you propose the voter be held accountable?

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