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Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by jmusall »

charcircuit wrote: post #256
jmusall wrote: post #239

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The things mega corporations built could be even more valuable (for society) if they didn't intentionally restrict for their own and their shareholders' benefit what you can do with them. "Regulating" also doesn't mean "taking control".

>shareholders' benefit Since they are public companies the shareholder's benefit is to society's benefit. >"Regulating" also doesn't mean "taking shareholders' benefit Technically true, but if the regulations are just suggestions then they won't accomplish anything. When people suggest regulation they want to control how these companies are acting, not just sending them a strongly worded letter.

> the shareholder's benefit is to society's benefit

Yes, but there can be other benefits than monetary ones. Besides, I find it rediculous to believe that wealthy people receiving more benefits automatically translates to improvements for the general society.

To add another point: The monetary value these companies create is often only possible because of their monopolistic market distortion. I don't think it can be a net benefit for society when competitors have little to no chance to offer a better product.

> When people suggest regulation they want to control how these companies are acting

That's true. In your original comment you also said "government taking over YouTube" which is why I thought we were talking about complete transfer of control à la planned economy, which is normally not the goal of regulations.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by notpushkin »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #203
notpushkin wrote: post #153

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> "play store services" meaning having to sign into play store Not necessarily. Most apps that require Play Services should work fine even if you’re not logged into Google. You do, however, have to have the “gapps” installed. ( Some apps would also actually check whether you’ve installed them from the Google Play store and not, say, Aurora, but from my experience most don’t bother.) Also, perhaps look into microG? It…

I have microg installed but it doesn't do anything? It also needs to be logged in? Gapps is what exactly. I have stock android on oneplus, just don't have play store signed in. Many apps refuse to work.

I’m using microG without signing in. Could you tell me a bit about what apps you’re using that you’re having trouble with?

A good way to sidestep all those issues is getting your “everyday” apps from F-Droid :-) I’m only using Aurora Store for things like banking, taxi, or food delivery apps, and those are usually working great. Some banks are more trigger happy (shame on you, Revolut) while others seem to be okay. I really only miss Google Wallet.

microG folks are working on Play Integrity, but it’s an ongoing battle: https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/issues/2967

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by megagpt3 »

schubidubiduba wrote: post #248
megagpt3 wrote: post #177

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Google doesn't have complete discretion. On Samsung phones, Samsung's discretion overrides Google's. On Xiaomi phones, Xiaomi's discretion overrides Google's.

Not really. Google sets strict boundaries for smartphone brands on what they can do software-wise. For instance, iirc, shipping the phone primarily with a non-Google alternative ROM means you won't get any play services on them, even if you want to have a secondary version with a standard Google ROM. Google has essentially full control. Because they own security updates. Because banking apps already now often do not…

Actually, the phone doesn't have play services if the vendor doesn't install play services. If the vendor installs play services then it has play services.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by mastermage »

zx8080 wrote: post #259
devsda wrote: post #40

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When do we stop this instinctive response of "well you can still do it in an only slightly convoluted way" everytime a corporate does something bad. Windows added ads - well you can disable them, if you don't like it. Chrome brought up mv3 - well you can still use mv2, it is only optional. Reddit locking subreddits behind login wall - well there's always old.reddit Android moving everything to playstore - there's alw…

The frog is boiling slowly. Google is breaking fdroid in less than a month left for sideloading: https://f-droid.org/en/2025/09/29/google-developer-registrat...

Honestly still one of the main reasons why I am actualy considering switching to iPhone. Atleast with Apple I know what to expect. And as a bonus I get amazing vertical integration and probably the best aftermarket there is.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by 1718627440 »

xatax wrote: post #267
1718627440 wrote: post #161

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To what value do I need to set the cookie?

I just checked and the cookie is actually redesign_optout. The value doesn't seem to matter - I just checked with value xyz and it worked. Here's the bookmarklet I use: javascript:(function(){const old_or_new = prompt("[O]ld or [N]ew?", "New");if (old_or_new.charAt(0).toUpperCase() == 'N') {document.cookie = 'redesign_optout=; Path=/; Domain=.reddit.com; Expires=Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:01 GMT;';} else {document.cookie…

Thanks, that's even better than accessing old.reddit.com!

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by account42 »

mastermage wrote: post #274
zx8080 wrote: post #259

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The frog is boiling slowly. Google is breaking fdroid in less than a month left for sideloading: https://f-droid.org/en/2025/09/29/google-developer-registrat...

Honestly still one of the main reasons why I am actualy considering switching to iPhone. Atleast with Apple I know what to expect. And as a bonus I get amazing vertical integration and probably the best aftermarket there is.

That's like moving to a gulag to get away from Guantanamo.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by account42 »

izacus wrote: post #234
dmos62 wrote: post #93

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> 'Why not both' is an argument, but clear as day what Apple does is worse. There's no alternative. 'Just start somewhere, anywhere, please' is another argument.

So let's start with the worse one.

No, that will only lead to bickering which one is worse and nothing getting done. Start with anyone. If you determine A is breaking the law then you go after A and fire anyone who pulls any "buuuut what about B" distractions.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by account42 »

gumby271 wrote: post #159
stavros wrote: post #141

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Ironically, Apple allows alternate app stores in the EU now, while Google is moving to disallow them everywhere.

I don't think Google is moving to disallow them, it's more that the EU said that it's fine for Apple to still own app notarization / developer verification even outside of Apple's app store. Google saw this and said, cool, we'll add that to Android too so we can also get our (undeserved) cut outside of the Play Store. I can install F-Droid or anything else, but if they dont submit papers to Google, I get a big scary…

It's also worth noting that Microsoft has been doing the same thing just in a more mob like "shame if we and our antivirus partners would defame you" kind of way instead of outright disallowing unsigned programs for now.

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Post by account42 »

xatax wrote: post #148
1718627440 wrote: post #116

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> Reddit locking subreddits behind login wall - well there's always old.reddit old.reddit is now locked behind login as well.

There's a workaround if you want it enough. I noticed that reddit was setting a use_redesign (I might have the name slightly wrong) cookie when I explicitly visited the old.reddit domain, and this caused old reddit to persist. Since I do occasionally want to use the new site for image posts and the like, I set up a bookmarklet to set/unset that cookie on command. I've since found that setting this cookie bypasses the…

There is a workaround for now. Boil little froggy, boil.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by account42 »

petu wrote: post #124
JacobKfromIRC wrote: post #121

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When did this start? I didn't even realize at first because I use Redlib.

few weeks ago

It was a staged rollout so there was no one start date for everyone.
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