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Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by ssorallen »

mingus88 wrote: post #18
theamk wrote: post #3

I am using firefox, but it is pretty hard to keep using it. I don't want the whole world to converge on one browser engine, but I also want things to work, and Firefox does not make it easy. Firefox on my laptop has a propensity for eating lots of RAM, and constant CPU usage, even if nothing is going on. Task manager is useless. Profiler just shows "GC collecting". Mobile firefox is OK, it simply feels like it's desi…

I don’t know you, but most people I work with for some reason keep so many tabs open, the tab bar is squeezed so you can barely see a favicon Probably due to my age, I religiously close every tab after I read it. If that gets more than a dozen, I literally quit the browser and declare bankruptcy because it’s not worth it to sort through the mess of tabs I clearly am not using. Firefox is old too. I’m sure it could ma…

I have maintained Tab Wrangler for both Chrome and for Firefox for years: it auto-closes tabs based on a configurable timeout and when they were last active. I'm not sure how people keep dozens or hundreds of tabs open either. It's FOSS, no ads, no tracking, no monetization:

https://github.com/tabwrangler/tabwrangler

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by dieortin »

cyberax wrote: post #33
TimTheTinker wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ladybird is steadily progressing: https://ladybird.org/

The last time I checked the source code, it was filled with horrible unsafe C++. They also re-implement everything whether it is needed or not.

Aren’t Chrome and Firefox also filled with “horrible unsafe C++”?

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by avazhi »

Getting mad that something is on Twitter will never not be funny to me.

Cutting off your nose to spite your face kind of thing.

Anyway, I’ll stick with FF for the adblocking but these Mozilla guys need to piss off with the constant popups for new features I don’t give a shit about (like a VPN). 1Password has been doing the same thing lately, too. Both my browser and my password manager fall into the category of software that should absolutely never bother or distract me from whatever I’m trying to do.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by Forgeties79 »

autoexec wrote: post #53

> Meanwhile, the over thinkers on Hacker News come up with convoluted reasons to hate on Firefox every time the subject arises...Firefox is our last best hope for browser engine diversity and competition. It's exactly because Firefox is so important that you'll see people here complaining when Firefox does things to push away users like Mozilla buying up an ad-tech company, collecting data on users, and using firefox…

Normally I'd agree but at this point it's basically "Firefox is mismanaged, updoots to the left my 1337zors" behavior. It's basically a meme. It's always at the top of every single firefox thread no matter what is being posted. Yes they make mistakes. Yes they can be frustrating. But it is still so much better than using a chromium browser, and that must be acknowledged.

People whine about the features every time. Guess what? I like sync. I like having a dedicated container for the rare times I must log in to google. I like some of these "useless" things they "tack on." Not every change must be met with "nobody asked for it." I actually don't want a super basic, boring browser - that's what I have mullvad browser for! FF is my daily driver, sometimes they roll out stuff I legitimately want and expect.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by werdnapk »

51Cards wrote: post #92
happytoexplain wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only? No. Best? Yes, it's not even close. I got the Chrome extension that adds the "Open in Firefox" option to the hyperlink right-click menu. That's how I view all YouTube videos. I'd switch completely to Firefox except for all my data being on Google. It's clear that eventually I will switch to Firefox completely. Google is pure evil.

I don't understand, all my data sits on Google too but I never use Chrome for anything? What issues are you having?

My data is google too and I own a pixel phone, but I only use Firefox and my google data is perfectly accessible using it.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by charcircuit »

throwlifeaway wrote: post #99

Part of the blame for what's wrong with the web right now is on web developers: - We "need" firefox or else everything's just chrome - Forks of chrome don't count as different browsers because they all use the same engine - Using the same engine makes you basically just chrome because you can't diverge from upstream - You can't diverge from upstream because it moves too fast and you need to keep merging with it - You…

>You can't diverge from upstream because it moves too fast and you need to keep merging with it

Blink is very modular. Merging your changes is easier than you think. Exponentially easier than creating a whole other browser engine.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by nasso_dev »

leephillips wrote: post #121
xgulfie wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a fun example https://archive.is/ZtQpj Another funny moment from this guy https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814#issuecommen...

That fun example does not provide evidence of what you accused the developer of. Not even close. I think if you’re going to accuse someone of what amounts to racist paranoia, you’d better have clear evidence of it. The fragment you linked to simply shows Kling being uncomfortable with racial discrimination in hiring, which is a mainstream, probably majority, attitude.

no, the fragment shows kling is completely blinded by his own privileges as a cisgender white guy and completely missing the point of diversity by instead making it all about himself and other cisgender white dudes

its unfortunately very common for privileged people to not realize how good they have it compared to people with less privileges. you have to live it to really know what its like

diversity efforts being seen as "discrimination against [privileged group]" is exactly how we don't fix the problem

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by chrysoprace »

I use Firefox, but Mozilla is increasingly eroding user trust and being primarily funded by Google to avoid a monopoly does not give me confidence either. When Google implement an anti-user feature, Mozilla have to begrudgingly implement it, and that is not a healthy ecosystem. There's a good chance that I'll move from Firefox when Ladybird reaches feature-parity, but they'll likely fall into the non-standard standards (Chrome-pushed features) trap all the same to avoid having sites break.

I don't know how we solve this, other than to hold Google accountable, but that in turn hurts Firefox. At least in that case we'll hopefully have Ladybird as a truly independent browser.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by GloriousKoji »

olejorgenb wrote: post #90
roughly wrote: post #65

There’s an old mantra from organizing: “no permanent enemies, no permanent allies.” You will never align with another group or person 100% on all things; the secret to making change is to build a coalition of those with whom you agree on an issue without holding it against them that you disagree on a different one. I disagree with Mozilla about many things, but I agree with this article - I use Firefox because it’s t…

It's also better that the other browser in many ways. The "Awesome Bar" among them.

I might be the odd one out but I hate the awesome bar. What I do like about Firefox is I can make the awesome bar just a boring address bar and have a separate search bar.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by eahm »

GuB-42 wrote: post #160
autoexec wrote: post #53

> Meanwhile, the over thinkers on Hacker News come up with convoluted reasons to hate on Firefox every time the subject arises...Firefox is our last best hope for browser engine diversity and competition. It's exactly because Firefox is so important that you'll see people here complaining when Firefox does things to push away users like Mozilla buying up an ad-tech company, collecting data on users, and using firefox…

I will go further and say that people hate on Firefox because they care. We don't see many people here hating on Edge for instance, they may hate the fact that it always wants to force itself in, but not the browser itself. And that's simply because they don't use it, they don't even bother trying, they don't know what to hate about it and they don't care. Occasionally, some people say it is actually good, they get i…

> hate is a good thing.

Hate more if you care.

The more you hate, the more you care.

Support hate.

Relax people it's a joke, if I have to say it it's not funny anymore.

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