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Re: Fastpotify

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Post by rightbyte »

taurath wrote: post #483
leoedin wrote: post #371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for a startup in 2019 which was really pushing the "Spotify model" of team structure. Apparently it's all about self-organising teams and having no leadership. The fact the technology output of the Spotify model - the Spotify app - seemed to be kind of crap didn't seem to matter. I think the main output of the Spotify team structure was blog posts promoting the Spotify team structure.

The Spotify model is basically just Amazon’s team-owned KPIs and independence, put into a UI so you can really see how much their app is conways law. This is why all the sections of Amazon.com are barely coherent. AWS does this too but it’s more naturally split and text works better than stateful rich media.

> so you can really see how much their app is conways law

The headache of using the shared playlist "Jam" feature and trying to add a song without playing it directly. There is like a separate queue system for "Jam" and things work differently.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by beart »

Tactical45 wrote: post #473
rot256 wrote: post #238

Spotify is, without doubt, the worst piece of software that I still use on a daily basis. It's incredibly buggy, incredibly slow, and the UI has so many "usability inconsistencies". I find the Android app particularly bad, just a couple of examples: - Under a playlist you get a list of suggested songs, the UI element looks like a "regular song", but unlike every other "song" element the user has been trained to recog…

I think the notion that it's the worst piece of software is a bit of a stretch here. I've used various streaming music players and Spotify has been the best by far. Doesn't mean it's perfect. I get that not all edge cases (eg swipe gestures) are bullet proof but that doesn't make it terrible software.

It's objectively really bad at a lot things. I've always had the feeling that the music is not even a primary feature of their product.

The last time I used it, I uninstalled once I realized that my kids could watch Logan Paul YouTube videos through the Spotify app. These masquerade as podcasts, but like a Trojan horse they are just vods of YouTube content. And at the time there was literally no way to disable this. No way to either turn off podcasts or specific content through parental controls or otherwise.

I just wanted to give my kids a way to listen to music while reading. I have since switched to our local community radio station.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by beart »

AtNightWeCode wrote: post #470
rot256 wrote: post #238

Spotify is, without doubt, the worst piece of software that I still use on a daily basis. It's incredibly buggy, incredibly slow, and the UI has so many "usability inconsistencies". I find the Android app particularly bad, just a couple of examples: - Under a playlist you get a list of suggested songs, the UI element looks like a "regular song", but unlike every other "song" element the user has been trained to recog…

I am a user since the beginning and had premium for almost as long. The state of the app is bad. Crash fest. They pretty much brags about that they slop code it. But was it better before? Let me give you a hall of fame of historical bugs/features. 1. Impossible to purge the play queue. Had to delete every track one by one. 2. Completely broke liked songs years after the feature was launched. 3. They broke offline mod…

The number of times I boarded an airplane to find my offline song list empty... I had to completely stop relying on it.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by Groxx »

NothingAboutAny wrote: post #337
rot256 wrote: post #238

Spotify is, without doubt, the worst piece of software that I still use on a daily basis. It's incredibly buggy, incredibly slow, and the UI has so many "usability inconsistencies". I find the Android app particularly bad, just a couple of examples: - Under a playlist you get a list of suggested songs, the UI element looks like a "regular song", but unlike every other "song" element the user has been trained to recog…

It truly has been one of the worst UX experiences and poorly made apps that ever made it to mainstream. I remember a decade or so ago there being a bunch of buzz about them in software dev because they were a microservice node.js/react stack or something with each UI element or portion of back-end having a separate dev team. I can vividly remember thinking "oh that's probably why when I change song sometimes the albu…

Spotify definitely has a better claim for "mainstream", but Epic's store/game-app takes the cake for me. Stunningly slow and bad.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by mike_bob »

azalemeth wrote: post #121
wilted-iris wrote: post #2

Spotify is in the process of killing the librespot project that this and most third party Spotify players are built on. I think the golden age of music streaming is coming to an end. I’ve migrated to a self hosted library with streaming and radio for discovery. I hope we’ll see many projects in the space flourish. Many, like Navidrome and the whole OpenSubsonic ecosystem, seem to be doing quite well.

If anyone other than me really likes classical music, I thoroughly recommend Hyperion Records. DRM free downloads in your choice of codec, one to two free CDs worth of sampler per month to download (with a jewel case PDF!) and some truly excellent world leading groups and beautiful new music.

Your comment really brought me back to my first job out of college, I worked for Tower Records (RIP) as a call center customer service rep. Tower was known for being the best place to find rare classical recordings, and I recall the Hyperion label as being well respected. It always fun to talk to our customers that were classical and jazz aficionados.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by rubymamis »

Like this, but the problem with such immediate mode GUI apps is that they constantly burn 1-2% of CPU when the app is idle. A waste of compute and power.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by cromka »

0fflineuser wrote: post #202
cromka wrote: post #165

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Is there a way to get Music Assistant fit into this nicely?

I do not use Music Assistant. As Music Assistant supports subsonic ( https://www.music-assistant.io/music-providers/subsonic/ ) and Navidrome expose a subsonic endpoint it should be possible ( https://www.navidrome.org/docs/developers/subsonic-api/ ).

Thanks!

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by zokier »

pjerem wrote: post #76
righthand wrote: post #65

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Spoiler: Spotify has always been terrible. The golden age of music streaming was Zune pass where you could stream and download 10 songs/mo. And arguably Pandora always had a better radio algorithm than Spotify.

The first Spotify client, the one in Qt was actually really good. Things started going downhill slowly when they integrated Facebook then very fast when they threw everything through the window to rewrite everything in electron.

the first spotify client was plain win32

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by beart »

voncheese wrote: post #380
NothingAboutAny wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It truly has been one of the worst UX experiences and poorly made apps that ever made it to mainstream. I remember a decade or so ago there being a bunch of buzz about them in software dev because they were a microservice node.js/react stack or something with each UI element or portion of back-end having a separate dev team. I can vividly remember thinking "oh that's probably why when I change song sometimes the albu…

Totally agree. They also have some stickiness going for them (at least for me). Now that I've organized my music in Spotify and have my habits in place that deal with the crummy UX, I've gotten numb to the poor UX. Case in point, I make a daily playlist for running and that UX is frequently changing and often for the worse, but I deal with it because it's a habit that costs me a few seconds maybe a minute per day. Th…

I also enjoyed wrapped, but at some point they made it only viewable in the app. It was previously available in the browser. That was the last time I thought about it.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by voncheese »

mbonnet wrote: post #519
voncheese wrote: post #380

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Totally agree. They also have some stickiness going for them (at least for me). Now that I've organized my music in Spotify and have my habits in place that deal with the crummy UX, I've gotten numb to the poor UX. Case in point, I make a daily playlist for running and that UX is frequently changing and often for the worse, but I deal with it because it's a habit that costs me a few seconds maybe a minute per day. Th…

I definitely enjoy Wrapped. But also something that keeps me in Spotify is the social aspect. If I want to make a playlist for someone, 95% of people I know use Spotify, so I need to have Spotify.

Yeah this is a good point. They also have a feature that lets you build and mix playlists together with others, not my personal speed but adds to the stickiness.
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