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Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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The name is older than the US or Canada.

That doesn't mean it should not be changed. How the lake existed back then and how it exists now is different so it is more deserving of a name change than other name changes that have happened.

It's much better reasoning than the petulant tantrums of a mental infant.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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I always felt that film was lazy in how it presents its premise. Maybe there's naunces I'm missing because I'm not American, but it made me feel a bit gross in the same way a lot of pop culture around 'chavs' in the UK made me feel a bit gross. I don't think always refraining from punching down is a good rule in comedy, but I struggle to find much comedy in things which are nothing but punching down.

Idiocracy is more like a work of Baudrillardian philosophy though, it isn’t punching down, it’s extrapolating upwards.

Admittedly it's been a long time since I watched it but isn't the introduction sequence straight-up apologia for the theories behind eugenics? The idea 'what if society got massively more stupid' isn't a bad one for a film but 'the rabbit-like hordes of the stupid outgroup ourbred our elite ingroup to extinction' rubs me the wrong way.

Maybe I'm being unfair to the film because of the fanbase as well. I've always seen it as a mild red flag when someone says it's their favourite comedy, but it's hardly the film's fault it got popular on places like reddit.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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I apologize to my Canadian friends. This is embarrassing.

Yes, but it's also Trump and the GOP self-immolating. November is going to be a historic electoral wipeout. I expect the next administration will push through some laws limiting this sort of idiocy.

>I expect the next administration will push through some laws limiting this sort of idiocy

"In a 5-4 decision..."

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#64
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This feels like the right-wing equivalent of pronoun policing lol. Crazy how the extremes of the political spectrum are so close to each other (like a horseshoe), yet hate each other so much. Doesn't seem like the polarization is near to ratcheting down though, at least not by judging from the comments in this thread.

“If you can be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you can be told what to say or think.”

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Idiocracy is more like a work of Baudrillardian philosophy though, it isn’t punching down, it’s extrapolating upwards.

Admittedly it's been a long time since I watched it but isn't the introduction sequence straight-up apologia for the theories behind eugenics? The idea 'what if society got massively more stupid' isn't a bad one for a film but 'the rabbit-like hordes of the stupid outgroup ourbred our elite ingroup to extinction' rubs me the wrong way. Maybe I'm being unfair to the film because of the fanbase as well. I've always see…

I think it’s a joke, not an apologia. If one can’t read it as a joke, then that’s on them. It’s a piece of satire forming a work of political and social philosophy, and a middling straight-to-video movie.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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I apologize to my Canadian friends. This is embarrassing.

As a Canadian, we are mostly just laughing about how childish he is. As a Canadian business owner who has American customers, I’m far more concerned about his temper tantrums relating to trade, however so far they have not impacted my sector.

As an USAmerican I am laughing as well.

(Laughing and crying.)

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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That’s just another way of saying “whoever you vote for, the government always gets in” if you limit terminology like that. The rise of the Reform and Brexit party undermines the argument of the Wikipedia page somewhat.

And what systemic problems have they addressed since then? I don't live there, but it seems that NHS is increasingly gutted by capital interests, with no end in sight. At best, you get an illusion of progress. That's not progress.

Very different questions to the one I was answering.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#69

See: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1206310 name:en=Lake Ontario vs. official_name:en-US=Lake America

Not sure it's really valid to call this "official". Trump can issue an executive order to the USGS to change names in the GNIS, but the use of USGS/GNIS data as the "official" name of things outside of the federal executive's own activities is itself just a matter of convention.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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I apologize to my Canadian friends. This is embarrassing.

> I apologize to my Canadian friends.

As a Canadian I say: please don't apologize; we're actually enjoying this.

The US could retaliate in a lot of other ways that could be much more hurtful to us: higher tariffs, break collaboration treaties, etc. The fact that Trump is "fighting back" with something this lame is just funny. It is like watching a 5 year old throwing a tantrum.

Compare this reaction with dogs. When a rottweiler or Doberman is angry with you, it attacks and hurts you. When a chihuahua or terrier is angry at you, it just makes a lot of noise. Trump's reaction is like a chihuahua, it is not like a rottweiler.

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