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Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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Post by charcircuit »

kijashdkujdfhas wrote: post #44
charcircuit wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not choose to feel patriotic about the decision. It gives us recognition for what we've done with the body of water. Arguably the fact that you feel embarrassed or need to apologize shows the lack of patriotism you feel over the body of water, so I think this new name can help future people feel patriotic over it. There is a lot of power in a name.

The name is older than the US or Canada.

That doesn't mean it should not be changed. How the lake existed back then and how it exists now is different so it is more deserving of a name change than other name changes that have happened.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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Post by ryandvm »

throw0101a wrote: post #19
abirch wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is Idiocracy the movie IRL. I can't wait for plants to need electrolytes.

> This is Idiocracy the movie IRL. The difference being that in the movie Idiocracy the President didn't assume he knew everything and was willing to listen to people who knew more than him.

Jesus, please do not remind me that the President in Idiocracy had better leadership skills than our actual President.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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Post by BoxOfRain »

abirch wrote: post #5
cebert wrote: post #3

I apologize to my Canadian friends. This is embarrassing.

This is Idiocracy the movie IRL. I can't wait for plants to need electrolytes.

I always felt that film was lazy in how it presents its premise.

Maybe there's naunces I'm missing because I'm not American, but it made me feel a bit gross in the same way a lot of pop culture around 'chavs' in the UK made me feel a bit gross. I don't think always refraining from punching down is a good rule in comedy, but I struggle to find much comedy in things which are nothing but punching down.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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Post by jmclnx »

fallingfrog wrote: post #10

Pretty sure lake Ontario was named after the native people who lived on its shores, not after the Canadian province. I suppose, lake Michigan and lake Huron are the same. Perhaps we can name them all lake America.

Actually for "lake Michigan and lake Huron" I am pushing for Canada to rename it to: "Greater Lake of Obama Nobel Prize" :)

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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Post by gizajob »

BoxOfRain wrote: post #53
abirch wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is Idiocracy the movie IRL. I can't wait for plants to need electrolytes.

I always felt that film was lazy in how it presents its premise. Maybe there's naunces I'm missing because I'm not American, but it made me feel a bit gross in the same way a lot of pop culture around 'chavs' in the UK made me feel a bit gross. I don't think always refraining from punching down is a good rule in comedy, but I struggle to find much comedy in things which are nothing but punching down.

Idiocracy is more like a work of Baudrillardian philosophy though, it isn’t punching down, it’s extrapolating upwards.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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Post by gizajob »

swed420 wrote: post #46
gizajob wrote: post #37

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*American Democracy

> *American Democracy Not according to the link above, and the growing array of solvable yet perpetually unsolved problems in other countries.

That’s just another way of saying “whoever you vote for, the government always gets in” if you limit terminology like that. The rise of the Reform and Brexit party undermines the argument of the Wikipedia page somewhat.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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Post by tavavex »

drstewart wrote: post #21
diego_moita wrote: post #18

As a Canadian, I have to admit: Trump is very, very talented in manipulating the discourse in the public arena. Gradually, he is steering away the public discussion from what matters: the Iran War, inflation, the abusive police state created by ICE, the rise of China and weakening of international standing of US... We're making a lot of noise about what doesn't matter: what's the name of a lake. It is like when I adm…

>And you know the funniest part? It has been working for years and will keep! On Canadians too. Remember what party was leading the polls before Trump started mean tweets?

Correction: remember what party was leading before they had to fight a far more popular opposition, before they became the recommended choice of the US, before they tried to import the American culture wars into Canada and before they infamously twiddled their thumbs and did nothing while the Americans were starting to talk of annexation?

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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Post by [deleted] »

charcircuit wrote: post #36
cebert wrote: post #3

I apologize to my Canadian friends. This is embarrassing.

Why not choose to feel patriotic about the decision. It gives us recognition for what we've done with the body of water. Arguably the fact that you feel embarrassed or need to apologize shows the lack of patriotism you feel over the body of water, so I think this new name can help future people feel patriotic over it. There is a lot of power in a name.

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Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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Post by swed420 »

gizajob wrote: post #56
swed420 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> *American Democracy Not according to the link above, and the growing array of solvable yet perpetually unsolved problems in other countries.

That’s just another way of saying “whoever you vote for, the government always gets in” if you limit terminology like that. The rise of the Reform and Brexit party undermines the argument of the Wikipedia page somewhat.

And what systemic problems have they addressed since then? I don't live there, but it seems that NHS is increasingly gutted by capital interests, with no end in sight.

At best, you get an illusion of progress. That's not progress.

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