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Re: Smartphone LED detects hidden cameras with AI

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Post by venzaspa »

paul7986 wrote: post #39
kragen wrote: post #36

People normally do this by scanning a 10mW 832nm laser with a mirror, according to Dan Gelbart in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MtRxX0crjU . The lecture is 77 minutes, covering nonlinear junction detectors, digital calipers, the US-embassy bug in Russia, laser microphones bounced off windows, and geometric errors from material relaxation. The bit about camera detectors is close to the end. Works for eyeballs too.…

For Meta they need to detect people giving wearers the finger to stop the glasses from recording or taking pics ha I do wear my Metas frequently though would never get the finger cause Im not a creep.

In my personal opinion, you're normalising technology that has overwhelmingly more benefit to creeps than to non creeps. So even if you're not a creep yourself, you are helping them.

Re: Smartphone LED detects hidden cameras with AI

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Post by b112 »

gruntled-worker wrote: post #46
testfoobar wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our culture has definitely changed from when Google Glass wearers were referred to as Glassholes. It appears that more people have just accepted that they will be filmed anywhere and everywhere. I miss the old days.

We went from opt-in zones to opt-out zones. Living spaces with curtains drawn and the inside of your vehicle should really be opt-in though.

If you sneak up to a house and peer in the windows, there might be trouble. I haven't looked at court decisions, and those'd be regional/country based, but if a house is 200M away on a hill, and you need a pair of binoculars to see in it, is there 'public nudity' if they walk around without the shades drawn?

I'd say no.

Yet conversely, it's not illegal(criminal) to use binoculars to peer. Still, you can get an injunction(civil) if it's a common thing, because then it moves into harassment. Restraining orders have been given. So then the question is, why is this a thing for your neighbour peering at your house with binoculars some of the day, but not for a camera doing the same 24x7? EG, a Ring camera pointed at your house, with sufficient resolution to act as binoculars?

I really wish 'viewing someone with a camera' remotely, was looked at more from the frame of 'is it the same as using binoculars'. EG, is there a zoom lens on the camera, or just as important, is it of sufficient high resolution that it can act as a zoom lens in software.

I'd like to see a court case push back against that.

I've found with technology, that everyone from judges to lawyers seem incapable, at the start, of considering it with an analog, uh, analogue. Almost all cameras are as binoculars today.

Re: Smartphone LED detects hidden cameras with AI

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Post by Melatonic »

askvictor wrote: post #24
fidotron wrote: post #4

If this worked with IR, and so non visible, it might be even more useful. Great idea though.

Pining for the days when phones had IR blasters (e.g. galaxy s6); that would work perfectly for this

LG V series is a few years old but I know some had them

Re: Smartphone LED detects hidden cameras with AI

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Post by [deleted] »

paul7986 wrote: post #39
kragen wrote: post #36

People normally do this by scanning a 10mW 832nm laser with a mirror, according to Dan Gelbart in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MtRxX0crjU . The lecture is 77 minutes, covering nonlinear junction detectors, digital calipers, the US-embassy bug in Russia, laser microphones bounced off windows, and geometric errors from material relaxation. The bit about camera detectors is close to the end. Works for eyeballs too.…

For Meta they need to detect people giving wearers the finger to stop the glasses from recording or taking pics ha I do wear my Metas frequently though would never get the finger cause Im not a creep.

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Re: Smartphone LED detects hidden cameras with AI

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Post by DonHopkins »

paul7986 wrote: post #39
kragen wrote: post #36

People normally do this by scanning a 10mW 832nm laser with a mirror, according to Dan Gelbart in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MtRxX0crjU . The lecture is 77 minutes, covering nonlinear junction detectors, digital calipers, the US-embassy bug in Russia, laser microphones bounced off windows, and geometric errors from material relaxation. The bit about camera detectors is close to the end. Works for eyeballs too.…

For Meta they need to detect people giving wearers the finger to stop the glasses from recording or taking pics ha I do wear my Metas frequently though would never get the finger cause Im not a creep.

Yeaaaah, you're not a creep, you just creep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0

Re: Smartphone LED detects hidden cameras with AI

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Post by DonHopkins »

testfoobar wrote: post #42
paul7986 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For Meta they need to detect people giving wearers the finger to stop the glasses from recording or taking pics ha I do wear my Metas frequently though would never get the finger cause Im not a creep.

Our culture has definitely changed from when Google Glass wearers were referred to as Glassholes. It appears that more people have just accepted that they will be filmed anywhere and everywhere. I miss the old days.

I think this Creepy Robert Scoble Google Glass High School Girls Recording is even creepier than his sharing naked shower selfies, because it involved subjecting teenaged girls to his classic brand of braggadocious self-aggrandizing behavior which he is so well known for, not just his own wet naked grinning body. That he lacks shame and self-awareness and still hasn't taken it down after all these years is just frosting on the cake.

Why Google Glass Will Be A Hit. The High School Girls Love Them.

https://soundcloud.com/scobleizer/why-google-glass-will-be-a...

Really, in Scoble's big head, that's what actually makes creepy surveillance technologies successful and worth all the costs and downsides: that high school girls love them??! They must really love Flock cameras then! Well at least their corrupt cop ex-boyfriends do.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/26/us/flock-kentucky-police-...

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/07/26/us/flock-cameras-surveill...

Considering the shower photo, his personality, his entire career of being a shallow vapid yapping technology cheerleader and wanna-be gatekeeper who never accomplished anything himself beyond manufacturing the attention he is so starved for, and his sexual harassment scandal where he plugged his own new "LightPitch" Attention Manufacturing Startup in his horrible non-apology apology (actually a denial and counterattack) after his previous colleague Shel Israel parted ways in disgust, this "The High School Girls Love Them" recording sure didn't age well.

The aging dot-com-era digerati in his old-boys' network still circle the wagons around him, pretending none of this ever happened. (You know who you are!)

Non Apology Apology, Denial, Counterattack, and Gratuitous Startup Plug titled "No, of that I’m innocent.":

https://web.archive.org/web/20171025173150/https://scobleize...

LightPitch: Helping startups get attention: I, Robert Scoble, have a passion for products, and have spent the last 20 years helping others tell the story of their products. Now you can benefit from my experience.

https://web.archive.org/web/20171025180030/http://lightpitch...

Robert Scoble and Me (medium.com/quinnnorton)

https://medium.com/@quinnnorton/robert-scoble-and-me-9b14ee9...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15511285

Robert Scoble: I didn’t sexually harass women, as I lacked power over them. Scoble claims sexual harassment “has to do with the power position.”

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/robert-scoble-i-...

Robert Scoble Blog Post Gives Crash Course in How Not to Apologize.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/10/robert-scoble-writes...

Robert Scoble doesn't know what sexual harassment is. It's not about 'making or breaking' someone's career.

https://mashable.com/article/robert-scoble-sexual-harassment

Scoble Isn’t Sorry. The famous tech blogger just showed us everything you shouldn’t do when you’re accused of sexual assault.

https://slate.com/technology/2017/10/robert-scobles-blog-pos...

Larry Page on Robert Scoble’s Google Glass stunt: ‘I really didn’t appreciate the shower photo’

https://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4333656/larry-page-teases...

The guy who ruined Google Glass with a shower selfie is at it again with Snapchat's Spectacles

https://www.businessinsider.com/robert-scoble-wears-snapchat...

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