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'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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>Eat a teaspoonful, and you might feel pleasantly warm and slightly lightheaded. Eat more than a few tablespoons, and your heart rate can drop to life-threatening levels. Reminds me of the Futurama episode with the space bee honey. Wonder if the writers got the inspiration from this.

Let me get this straight: you feel lightheaded because your heart function is compromised? Sign me up!

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

#72

This is the original article and has better images IMHO. https://theconversation.com/mad-honey-that-can-stop-your-hea...

But the risk is actually more broad than the article points out. Any honey where enough of the nectar comes from rhododendrons could be dangerous.

Grayanotoxin containing Rhododendron occur not just in Nepal, but in Turkey, North America, and Europe.

I think there are other plants that the bees concentrate the toxins of.

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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If you maintain the pairing with the statement about the concentration in the honey varying, it's somewhat harder to argue that it is overblown. The concentration varies considerably due to bees harvesting pollen from different flowers and from some batches of honey being mixed and some not.

> If you maintain the pairing with the statement about the concentration in the honey varying, it's somewhat harder to argue that it is overblown. Those are two separate worries connected by an "and". I'm not arguing worry #2 is overblown. And it sounds like the problem of variance is that it isn't small. If one batch can be 5x as strong as another (made up number), then even a pretty good medicinal response curve le…

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Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Datura is fucking dangerous. Deliriants are no joke in general. That one in particular is really dangerous because it grows absolutely anywhere and is very easy to identify. Source; chemistry was my favorite class in high school and college because it helped me understand how to extract what I wanted from plants like jimsonweed and Mimosa trees. Also no one should do that.

As someone who as extracted dmt from mimosa hostilis, more people should do it than buy god knows what RCs on the darkweb.

What's RC? Recreational Chemical?

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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It's on you to figure out the dosage you can take, and it should be on the producer to label the dosage they're selling.

Good luck with that, doesn’t really seem like the kind of seller you can take to the FDA

Maybe they'll get onboard with UNTP https://untp.unece.org/

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

#79

>Eat a teaspoonful, and you might feel pleasantly warm and slightly lightheaded. Eat more than a few tablespoons, and your heart rate can drop to life-threatening levels. Reminds me of the Futurama episode with the space bee honey. Wonder if the writers got the inspiration from this.

I know of rhododendron honey from killing Pompey’s army in around 60bc.

That was you??

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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post #77

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As someone who as extracted dmt from mimosa hostilis, more people should do it than buy god knows what RCs on the darkweb.

What's RC? Recreational Chemical?

Research chemicals. Typically analogues, and stuff like that.
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