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'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but also we need to deal with the reality of the world, which is 1) not everyone is going to and 2) they don’t deserve to die because of it.

I agree they don’t “deserve” to die, but someone comfortable with that level of risk management is quite hard to fully protect from themselves.

Not only they don't deserve to die - they deserve to not die from this, no matter their level of risk taking.

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

#32
post #2

Old Vice documentary about it. This is where I had first heard about it. Used to be really hard to find the honey online, like only one or 2 places that sold it https://youtu.be/wDOvmhqvIA8

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Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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They mention the toxin comes from the rhododendron flower. I remember camping in North Carolina once and one of the people I was with warned against burning anything from the rhododendron in the area, as supposedly the smoke would give you the runs. I mostly thought they were joking, and I have no idea what specific type of rhododendron would be there (if any), but maybe there’s a glimmer of merit to it? Or maybe the…

You also don't want to burn poison ivy because the oil (urushiol) is not something you want in your lungs if you are reactive to it.

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

#34

>Eat a teaspoonful, and you might feel pleasantly warm and slightly lightheaded. Eat more than a few tablespoons, and your heart rate can drop to life-threatening levels. Reminds me of the Futurama episode with the space bee honey. Wonder if the writers got the inspiration from this.

You’ve got to wake up.

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

#36

>Eat a teaspoonful, and you might feel pleasantly warm and slightly lightheaded. Eat more than a few tablespoons, and your heart rate can drop to life-threatening levels. Reminds me of the Futurama episode with the space bee honey. Wonder if the writers got the inspiration from this.

I know of rhododendron honey from killing Pompey’s army in around 60bc.

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

#39
post #7

A lot of things sold online can stop your heart.

Name a few. I want to be an informed person.

The dose makes the poison, or something like that.

- Sand (inhaled)

- Air (intravenous)

- Blood thinners or rat poison

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

#40

> The problem is that the gap between a medicinal dose and a toxic dose is very small What's this claim based on? I don't think it's the rat study linked nearby. I looked through it and they didn't really compare doses. If it's a linear effect on dropping blood pressure, that seems like an overblown way to talk about it. If it's something else, I'd love to hear more.

I also wondered why, if it has this effect, it has not been purified to a standard concentration (or synthesized) and used to treat high blood pressure. Possibly because accidental overdose can be fatal?

because we already have actual medication that does that in a controllable and well-characterized way
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