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OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by xcjs »

w4yai wrote: post #108
xcjs wrote: post #36

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Mine is contributing to media preservation by reverse engineering Android apps/games that were forced into obsolescence by Google's policies: https://xcjs.com/blog/2026/08/29/resurrecting-2013-with-qwen...

Is OpenClaw / Hermes doing anything better than another harness for RE stuff ? I'm using Kimi Code with few skills, MCPs and that's basically everything I need. Am I missing something ?

In my case it has its own Docker container it can do as it pleases in, is more usable from a smartphone on the go, and has tooling geared toward long-lived loops, including automatic session resumption after power loss.

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by philtar »

siwatanejo wrote: post #83
Schlagbohrer wrote: post #60

I have found the Pi agent harness, running in a docker container, with Qwen3.8-27B in back in LM Studio, to be amazing and i use it daily. Just last weekend I used it to do PDF editing which previously would have required me to download really shady software online to do. I have never tried OpenClaw so maybe I am missing out but considering how much my agent can modify the Pi environment to work better, I am happy wi…

> Just last weekend I used it to do PDF editing which previously would have required me to download really shady software online to do. Agreed on the shady software (or shitty online website that asks you for a payment after you're done editing), however, wouldn't the best PDF edition approaches involve WYSIWYG style edition? I'm guessing you didn't get that with Pi.

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Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by xcjs »

FluffyPancake wrote: post #100
xcjs wrote: post #36

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Mine is contributing to media preservation by reverse engineering Android apps/games that were forced into obsolescence by Google's policies: https://xcjs.com/blog/2026/08/29/resurrecting-2013-with-qwen...

that's pretty cool. I have a hope that despite the giant mountain of shit that is going to be produced from LLMs in the future, there's going to be a small number of people out there doing cool things with them. I am completely ignorant on the gaming hardware front, but I hope we see more/better emulators and old games being brought back to life with improved performance and compatibility with modern OSs.

I think like any technology it can be used for positive or negative outcomes. It certainly makes either easier.

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by solarkraft »

eyeris wrote: post #63
Schlagbohrer wrote: post #60

I have found the Pi agent harness, running in a docker container, with Qwen3.8-27B in back in LM Studio, to be amazing and i use it daily. Just last weekend I used it to do PDF editing which previously would have required me to download really shady software online to do. I have never tried OpenClaw so maybe I am missing out but considering how much my agent can modify the Pi environment to work better, I am happy wi…

No problem/con here, but I think the main reason for openclaw became famous is that it was a harness you could connect via messaging apps (esp telegram). That way you could have an assistant with your full computer context available on the go. Additionally, it’s super battery-included, pretty much the opposite of pi

To me it’s kind of the dumbest thing about it. “Talk to claude from anywhere” - huh, like I already do? Why can’t I have an extra app? How do I manage my sessions?

I (as somebody also DIYing) consider the defining feature of a “claw” to be task scheduling/some form of autonomous action.

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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tempodox wrote: post #146
layla5alive wrote: post #101

Open claw: aka. open door to a remote privilege escalation potentially granting root access to your computer (and if you're using it "as intended" possibly all of your email/internet logins/accounts, your credit card, etc.) to any text your model ingests from the internet... It's already true of LLMs in general that they represent a privilege escalation opportunity to any text they ingest. But with human in the loop,…

It's the lethal trifecta on steroids, sold to you as a feature. Together with your point about convenience, it's the lethal quadfecta, as we can take the prevalence of convenience as a given.

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Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by solarkraft »

xcjs wrote: post #171
w4yai wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is OpenClaw / Hermes doing anything better than another harness for RE stuff ? I'm using Kimi Code with few skills, MCPs and that's basically everything I need. Am I missing something ?

In my case it has its own Docker container it can do as it pleases in, is more usable from a smartphone on the go, and has tooling geared toward long-lived loops, including automatic session resumption after power loss.

My OpenCode setup has most of this.

Automatic resumption is kind of cool.

Could you go into the the tooling for long-lived loops?

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by teekert »

croes wrote: post #154
teekert wrote: post #122

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Teenagers would experiment a lot less with sex and drugs, if that was the requirement ;) (Or what would we call the thing the teenagers do?)

Would you call those teenagers mindful?

I a way yes, it is their duty to their future happiness to explore. No doubt some will not word it like that, but I met some that really do (and I envy them, I was indeed a bit mind/clue-less).

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by mechazawa »

stbenjam wrote: post #144
layla5alive wrote: post #101

Open claw: aka. open door to a remote privilege escalation potentially granting root access to your computer (and if you're using it "as intended" possibly all of your email/internet logins/accounts, your credit card, etc.) to any text your model ingests from the internet... It's already true of LLMs in general that they represent a privilege escalation opportunity to any text they ingest. But with human in the loop,…

The risk here is wildly overstated, prompt injection risk is becoming vanishingly small with the latest frontier models. I would not run an OpenClaw with full access to my bitwarden, but it certainly has some logins available to it, and can make purchases with link-cli which has human-in-the-loop.

prompt injection has been super easy for ages. Heck I do it sometimes against coworkers who process my review comments using claude. I'll tell claude to edit it's global claude.md file or even dump a key from their env (checking if they are using the correct sandbox) and it'll do it without confirming with their user.

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by opwizardx »

nsonha wrote: post #38

how many people fall into the openclaw trap because they just need a way to command agents from mobile, and cron tasks? Only thing I am missing with codex is the ability to recall anything from any session (I see it in this openclaw "2" release note so I guess it wasn't in openclaw "1" anyway). I guess claude and codex can look up transcripts globally too, just not as a first class feature.

That is exactly what I'm building pond for myself: one store for all my sessions, Codex and Claude Code both and a bunch of others including OpenClaw, and my agents can access it over MCP. It also happens really often that when my agents cannot find something, they just call pond search themselves. Faster that way. Whenever I need a session from a while ago now, I just know it's in pond. Repo, if you'd be willing to give it a try: github.com/tenequm/pond
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