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OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by pdyc »

Schlagbohrer wrote: post #60

I have found the Pi agent harness, running in a docker container, with Qwen3.8-27B in back in LM Studio, to be amazing and i use it daily. Just last weekend I used it to do PDF editing which previously would have required me to download really shady software online to do. I have never tried OpenClaw so maybe I am missing out but considering how much my agent can modify the Pi environment to work better, I am happy wi…

what are you using for reading/writing pdf? is it some mcp plugin or some pdf lib in python/js and qwen is doing it via code?

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by newswasboring »

SipitenoMK wrote: post #134

Actually I use Hermes Agent who delegates tasks to OpenClaw. It works perfectly, we run OpenClaw experiments with my partner as an independent drop shipper, it’s much more complicated setup, which cannot disclose publicly, but it works. The brain is Hermes, OpenClaw from VPS is a fearless executor :)

But hermes agent can do whatever openclaw can. At least in my experience. Then why delegate to claw and not just a hermes profile?

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

iagooar wrote: post #95
Schlagbohrer wrote: post #60

I have found the Pi agent harness, running in a docker container, with Qwen3.8-27B in back in LM Studio, to be amazing and i use it daily. Just last weekend I used it to do PDF editing which previously would have required me to download really shady software online to do. I have never tried OpenClaw so maybe I am missing out but considering how much my agent can modify the Pi environment to work better, I am happy wi…

As much as I love my CLI tools, I just cannot go back to not having native built-in browser integration, links, etc which the (Mac) desktop apps like ChatGPT or Claude offer. I do use Hermes sometimes, but it tends to keep growing skills and overhead over time, to the point it is becoming utterly slow and sluggish. The Desktop experience itself seems vibecoded without taste, in contrast to the core of Hermes, which i…

Llama.cpp has a web UI, but if you need a harness, OpenCode now has a web UI too

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by stbenjam »

layla5alive wrote: post #101

Open claw: aka. open door to a remote privilege escalation potentially granting root access to your computer (and if you're using it "as intended" possibly all of your email/internet logins/accounts, your credit card, etc.) to any text your model ingests from the internet... It's already true of LLMs in general that they represent a privilege escalation opportunity to any text they ingest. But with human in the loop,…

The risk here is wildly overstated, prompt injection risk is becoming vanishingly small with the latest frontier models.

I would not run an OpenClaw with full access to my bitwarden, but it certainly has some logins available to it, and can make purchases with link-cli which has human-in-the-loop.

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by camillomiller »

oarsinsync wrote: post #68
camillomiller wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it just me or all you describe would be easily scriptable like 5 years ago? Not being confrontational, it’s just that every description of what OpenClaw does sounds quite… not disruptive at all for something that was hailed as the biggest invention since sliced bread.

100% easily scriptable. Just like running an (S)FTP server is easy, and Dropbox is not at all disruptive. Except you're overestimating the barrier to entry of scripting for the overwhelming majority of people. OpenClaw is not disruptive because it does something that wasn't possible before, it's disruptive because it enables more people to do the thing that was limited to fewer people. Where I get confused is why my…

I would agree if OpenClaw was at all accessible to common people. It’s even more nerdy than scripting

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by tempodox »

layla5alive wrote: post #101

Open claw: aka. open door to a remote privilege escalation potentially granting root access to your computer (and if you're using it "as intended" possibly all of your email/internet logins/accounts, your credit card, etc.) to any text your model ingests from the internet... It's already true of LLMs in general that they represent a privilege escalation opportunity to any text they ingest. But with human in the loop,…

It's the lethal trifecta on steroids, sold to you as a feature.

Together with your point about convenience, it's the lethal quadfecta, as we can take the prevalence of convenience as a given.

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by sketchysandwich »

eyeris wrote: post #63
Schlagbohrer wrote: post #60

I have found the Pi agent harness, running in a docker container, with Qwen3.8-27B in back in LM Studio, to be amazing and i use it daily. Just last weekend I used it to do PDF editing which previously would have required me to download really shady software online to do. I have never tried OpenClaw so maybe I am missing out but considering how much my agent can modify the Pi environment to work better, I am happy wi…

No problem/con here, but I think the main reason for openclaw became famous is that it was a harness you could connect via messaging apps (esp telegram). That way you could have an assistant with your full computer context available on the go. Additionally, it’s super battery-included, pretty much the opposite of pi

Pi agent supports messaging apps now.

I'm actually building my own version of Open Claw, custom tailored to me using the Pi agent SDK and Discord.

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by maherbeg »

This is pretty cool. I'll wait to watch some videos on it, but I haven't quite found a tool that is excellent for both single player and multi-player.

I'd like to have basically the Codex Desktop App / Mobile app for my personal use, connected to local LLMs. But I'd also like to be able to have a shared space, where my family and I can work together to do things like plan trips. This would then store artifacts like our itinerary, ideas, html mini sites for the trip for us to work on and use together. Agents sit alongside us helping us plan and organize. Buzz is decent for this use case, but hasn't fully nailed the mark.

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by whatsThisBtn4 »

layla5alive wrote: post #101

Open claw: aka. open door to a remote privilege escalation potentially granting root access to your computer (and if you're using it "as intended" possibly all of your email/internet logins/accounts, your credit card, etc.) to any text your model ingests from the internet... It's already true of LLMs in general that they represent a privilege escalation opportunity to any text they ingest. But with human in the loop,…

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