Somehow people are suddenly not impressed nor amazed by such announcements…
OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally
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#92I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?
Nobody actually uses openclaw. [0] It's all just marketing. [0] https://trends.google.com/explore?q=openclaw&date=today%201-...
Are they using something else or nothing at all?
Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally
#93Somehow people are suddenly not impressed nor amazed by such announcements…
Maybe because openclaw is a security hazard and an unmaintainable codebase without LLMs?
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#94This was useful for the 1-2 months where models were good enough to use all their newfound tools but not good enough to vibe code them themselves. Now, just install codex (or claude code or whatever) on a vps, tell it to make a way to email it, then email it to make a way to text it etc etc. takes a few minutes and when you need another bridge just have codex make it.
I'm fairly sure you can vibecode all these things, but given the state of agent produced code at the moment, I would suspect that your email and sms gate will have horrible security holes.
who is going to target _your_ specific holes and infrastructure though? :)
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#95I have found the Pi agent harness, running in a docker container, with Qwen3.8-27B in back in LM Studio, to be amazing and i use it daily. Just last weekend I used it to do PDF editing which previously would have required me to download really shady software online to do. I have never tried OpenClaw so maybe I am missing out but considering how much my agent can modify the Pi environment to work better, I am happy wi…
As much as I love my CLI tools, I just cannot go back to not having native built-in browser integration, links, etc which the (Mac) desktop apps like ChatGPT or Claude offer.
I do use Hermes sometimes, but it tends to keep growing skills and overhead over time, to the point it is becoming utterly slow and sluggish. The Desktop experience itself seems vibecoded without taste, in contrast to the core of Hermes, which is solid.
I wonder if there is an agent harness that has the strengths of Pi, but in a native Mac desktop app packaging?
Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally
#96One thing I really like about Claude Code, Hermes, and other harnesses, is how much feedback they give about what they are doing. They take you along for the ride, which builds trust. I tried OpenClaw for about 10 minutes, and the feedback I got (even using Claude under the hood) felt very "trust me bro, I've got this" - which made me trust it less. I'm sure there's a way to get more verbose feedback? But I did feel…
Sounds like paseo is for you. It wraps whatever harness you want and makes it accessible on the go. I am the same way as you and openclaw is not for me. https://paseo.sh
Thanks! I've been using happier, but this looks maybe even better
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#97Somehow people are suddenly not impressed nor amazed by such announcements…
OpenClaw is a vibecoded mess. Updates break default installation flow all the time.
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#98I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?
Job search and language learning. The job market for juniors and mid level is crazy. Everyone has a different form to fill out with the same questions. My wife has countered this by using Hermes and some handcrafted master files/db. I personally use the Matt Pocock teaching skill to learn dutch, passed reading using it, on track to pass writing with it.
How do you know it is filling out the application forms correctly?
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#99I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?
Indeed, I find it hard to conceive of problems that are:
- too difficult for me to solve but easy enough for a cheap model to solve (if it's going to be running autonomously in the background, I ain't paying ChatGPT/Claude prices), and
- don't involve a bunch of my personal data that I am not comfortable sending off to a random inference provider.
One thing I considered was that it might be good for anything that involves web scraping, given that has traditionally been a fairly difficult thing to do well. But you'd have to be okay with the occasional mistake. (You'd also have to be morally okay with contributing to the epidemic of AI scrapers that websites now have to deal with.)
Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally
#100I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?
Mine is contributing to media preservation by reverse engineering Android apps/games that were forced into obsolescence by Google's policies: https://xcjs.com/blog/2026/08/29/resurrecting-2013-with-qwen...
that's pretty cool. I have a hope that despite the giant mountain of shit that is going to be produced from LLMs in the future, there's going to be a small number of people out there doing cool things with them. I am completely ignorant on the gaming hardware front, but I hope we see more/better emulators and old games being brought back to life with improved performance and compatibility with modern OSs.