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Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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To be fair I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs despite how they believe in greater self-worth. As a developer I keep running into problems that require some measure of creativity to solve or workaround. And regardless of how many years I've been in the industry I'm not running out of issues. They just keep getting more obscure. On the other hand leadership communication and problem resolution seem like…

https://fortune.com/2025/11/19/google-ceo-sundar-pichai-says...

Top CEO agrees

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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The concept of "class struggle" epitomizes the "group vs. group war" mentality. It's a mental framework that combines ingroup/outgroup dynamics with a Manichean moral narrative, leading to literally every question being interpreted as a move in relation to an all-encompassing macro-level conflict. This in turn leads to every problem being abstracted out of its context, and attributed to malice instead of error. Think…

Having read history and knowing a bit about labor conditions before workers fought for rights, I find it odd to find someone who rejects the idea that class struggles exist, or that those with riches don't try to protect their exclusive access to those riches more often than not.

Ah you read history… that was your mistake. You must remain completely ignorant to believe in the idea that there is no class struggle.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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That's funny when you said that a CEO reads the body language of programmers. CEOs and high executives don't even bother looking at you!

I worked at a 10,000 person company ~15y ago. I was a lowly employee at the time; just a run of the mill Research Analyst writing code in SAS. I got on the elevator w/the CEO, said hello, and he knew exactly who I was and what I did. Two important grounding items for me when I went into management and my career accelerated: 1. Take the worst boss I ever had (coincidentally at the same company) and make sure that I do…

How many CEOs actually do this? Can't say I've ever met one example of this outside startups.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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A serious point about this is that it's an AI that's an organization. This matters. People laughed at Gas Town, and at that "Fences, not Sandboxes" article yesterday.[1] They're both AIs set up as an organization, not an emulated human. They're both expensive to operate, because the AI members of the organization spend a lot of time talking with each other. They're both applied to frivolous problems. Now we have the…

We have some interesting evidence from AI agents. People used to make the plan with a stronger and more expensive model, and then use a cheaper model to do the "grunt work" of implementing it. But it turns out it's better to do it the other way around. A good plan is easy, implementing it is not.

> plan with a stronger and more expensive model, and then use a cheaper model to do the "grunt work

Doesn't this sound like the model that led to bloated poor software produced by code monkey sweatshops where an architect fobbed off implementation work to grunts?

It always brings me back to the anecdote that QQ had 6000+ devs and WeChat was built by a tiny core of elite engineers (by imitating WhatsApp)

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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To be fair I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs despite how they believe in greater self-worth. As a developer I keep running into problems that require some measure of creativity to solve or workaround. And regardless of how many years I've been in the industry I'm not running out of issues. They just keep getting more obscure. On the other hand leadership communication and problem resolution seem like…

I think also it's extremely hard to fairly judge high level decisions whose outcomes may not materialize for a very long time. This makes it genuinely hard for humans to get better (and one gets the impression that most of them don't) with more experience at the helm of a large and complex org. But it also means that it's hard to evaluate or train a machine on the task. You can maybe automate getting something plausi…

> You can maybe automate getting something plausible out, but how would you know if it was _good_ in a timely way?

Contrary to the other guy, the answer is accountability, either personal, or higher-level systems like competition and ultimately Darwinism.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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To be fair I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs despite how they believe in greater self-worth. As a developer I keep running into problems that require some measure of creativity to solve or workaround. And regardless of how many years I've been in the industry I'm not running out of issues. They just keep getting more obscure. On the other hand leadership communication and problem resolution seem like…

The value-add for a meatbag CEO is the physical networking they do. They have to do executive functions as well, which could quite possibly be replaced with a well-trained LLM and even possibly exceed in overall quality. But an LLM can't go to conferences; they can't have Top Secret Meetings where a merger or acquisition is discussed; they can't run into Jim Executive of BigCorp Inc. in Vail and scheme up some big ne…

Network issue. If we could replace all meatbag CEOs by AI CEOs, then this wouldn't be an issue. Communication and deal making would be vastly faster and more efficient.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Lol!! Don't forget. This is a modern day class war. This current LLM based so called AI, could have easily used for automating simple tasks and employees could have easily provided with 3 day work week. The goal is to monopolize human knowledge with all the stolen data and make profits from it.

https://branko2f7.substack.com/p/sketching-the-new-dysto-uto...

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Jeremy Irons's CEO character in _Margin Call_ explains his job like this: > Do you care to know why I'm in this chair with you all? I mean, why I earn the big bucks?... I'm here for one reason and one reason alone. I'm here to guess what the music might do a week, a month, a year from now. That's it. Nothing more. And standing here tonight, I'm afraid that I don't hear - a - thing. Just... silence. I'm sure many CEOs…

i'm pretty sure that john tuld is not a bozo. maybe jared cohen, but he's a killer.
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