Somewhat similar to the Claude Cowork pattern; Cowork is one toggle away from Chat.
Also follows the Grok Bot of an advanced computer use. OpenClaw for normies.
Understanding ChatGPT Work
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Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work
#62I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…
> It's it bit slow since I'm not paying extra for ultrafast mode
Contrary to its name, "ultrafast" isn't faster than the rest, and many times slower than "max", as it'll "fork out" to a bunch of sub-agents and wait for them, + does extra "red-teaming" and more.
I think "ultrafast" is not referring to the speed of the "model" (harness in reality, as it's all the same model as "max") but rather how fast it consumes your usage limits.
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#63Somewhat similar to the Claude Cowork pattern; Cowork is one toggle away from Chat. Also follows the Grok Bot of an advanced computer use. OpenClaw for normies.
> OpenClaw for normies
Mm, yes, normies who hang out in terminals and run curl|bash scripts to install services on their computer and such, typical "normie" activity...
"normies" don't know what OpenClaw, "AI assistant" or what anything else than "ChatGPT" is, and point them to the landing page of Grok/Claude and they'll say "Yeah, that's ChatGPT".
Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work
#64I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…
Using Work/Codex I'm continually amazed at how far my experience is from the popular AI memes like "this will destroy all jobs" and "AI is useless and is about to crash and take the economy with it."
My experience feels like I'm in an Iron Man movie. I get up in the morning, I turn on the voice chat mode, and while I'm making my coffee I ask it to highlight any important emails I received overnight. I then babble to it a bit with my initial reactions to those emails, and tell it to draft responses based on my thoughts, which it does.
By the time I start work I've got draft emails to review and I've had time to think about the ideas a bit more, the upshot is that I'll get a day's worth of email done in 20 minutes and probably make better decisions than I would have otherwise. By no means does this eliminate my job, just make me better at it and more productive. I can get into the day's deep work sooner now.
Going into that two-way voice mode with all your Connectors available is a big part of the gain here, sometimes you just want to walk and talk through something. It seems you can't get both of those simultaneously in the mobile app yet and when you can that'll be a huge gain, like go take a walk in the garden, talk through your thoughts, the appropriate drafts and other artifacts are ready for you to finalize when you return to your desk. This stuff is honestly space age.
I don't have much experience with Claude so if it also has that two way voice mode and can use its version of Connectors on mobile while that's turned on, I should give it another shot.
Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work
#65I've noticed ChatGPT Work does a much better job of editing google docs than the pure Chat. It also does a better job of handling long threads and doing the necessary compaction to get better results
OpenAI has been slowly strangling context limits, task timeframes, tools, etc, for chat. They're trying to encourage people to use "Work" because chat is free and Work is metered. Expect chat capabilities to degrade further over time.
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#66>> "ChatGPT Chat gets a fresh filesystem for each chat session. These cannot be accessed from any other session."
That's what the Library is for. You can use GitHub to keep it outside ChatGPT. GitHub also provides a Chat-based option for sites.
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#67> Claude’s equivalent container has allowed restricted internet access since it launched last September. Claude can install packages from PYPI and NPM and clone repositories from GitHub. But that is about it: the allowlist of domains is very short.
Perhaps they’ve updated this since the author last checked, but the allowlist in Claude cloud environments is fully customisable and there is also an unrestricted option. There are a few restrictions you can’t seem to get around - eg all traffic via http, no connecting to port 5432.
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#68Missing from here is the marketing position. Claude _very_ rapidly gained traction in the business/enterprise space earlier this year with Claude Cowork leading that drive. So successful it was, it lead to Microsoft licensing the Claude Cowork IP and white labelling it as Copilot Cowork (has anything like that ever happened before?!). ChatGPT Work was, imo, largely driven by a panic at OpenAI that they were haemorrha…
Yeah ... the simplest answer to what ChatGPT Work is seems to be a panic-clone of Claude Cowork as a hail mary to try and catch up to Anthropic in enterprise.
Cowork is like crack cocaine to nearly every exec I've seen use it from the moment they put in an email search / summary query.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suspect it's mostly marketing. People think "I don't want code so I won't use Codex" so they get the same thing but labeled Work.
+1 I’ve had this conversation with so many non-techies. They assume Codex can only do coding.
which is again where Anthropic has outplayed them. Because Claude is being happily applied everywhere as a universal term, with "Code" or "Cowork" only appended as necessary.
Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work
#70ChatGPT work usage counts toward Codex entitlement Some people have an agent-driven browser that controls the ChatGPT web UI and exposes it as a chat view in a custom harness or pi for normal chats (with image generation, file input capability).
What is the point of that? Why is that better than using the harness directly?