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Understanding ChatGPT Work
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it makes you feel any better, I have just upvoted every submission made by your account.
I mean he is kind of speaking truth. Anything Simon posts seems to get upvoted and this article is nothing special or interesting. It's like a tutorial for a feature of a ChatGPT subscription.... Cool.
Occam's Razor would suggest that's because Simon posts good content.
You can check his domain history to confirm that not everything Simon posts gets upvoted. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=simonwillison.net
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#43One of the Codex employees on Twitter promised (threatened?) that the next gen of Codex will be cloud focused, and less local. I wonder now if that means it will be a more powerful GPT Work.
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#44I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…
I am not sure I understand how this is better from using Claude Code from the mobile app. Or Codex from the ChatGPT app. If you have supplied tooling on your system, you have access to all of this and more. I think the idea is most people don’t have a machine up and available, nor maintain skills for interacting with their core services? One thing that keeps me from adopting codex more deeply is the architecture arou…
Codex with computer use, yes. GP mentioned it.
> Codex requires you run the desktop app and additional authentication requirements. The result of this has been codex is almost always relegated to fleet worker rather than orchestrator.
I’m often using my MBP but also the Mac Studio remotely via the mobile app. What’s missing in your mind?
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#45I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…
> "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files saved in the folder" It's both awesome and scary at the same time to realising that most AI these days can work on something like this that's official and tedious, and probably not screw up too much (or do better at it than some people with fat fingers).
They are better at many things I‘m a novice at. At least at the operational level. I can’t rely on the semantics being fully correct because they tend to get subtle things wrong or just don’t ask. Like tax forms - not a good idea to put them on full auto. You‘ll leave money on the table.
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#46I recently figured out that I could use ChatGPT Work on my Pixel Phone to build native Android apps. It builds the app and you can then directly download/install the APK. So now I just build small utility apps on-the-go whenever I need them :)
Can it debug the apps? That would the app singularity - user speaking at their phone until phone complies and produces desired app for the current moment.
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#47Missing from here is the marketing position. Claude _very_ rapidly gained traction in the business/enterprise space earlier this year with Claude Cowork leading that drive. So successful it was, it lead to Microsoft licensing the Claude Cowork IP and white labelling it as Copilot Cowork (has anything like that ever happened before?!). ChatGPT Work was, imo, largely driven by a panic at OpenAI that they were haemorrhaging market intrigue and LinkedIn zeitgeist and headspace to Anthropic. ChatGPT had been the de facto, almost the Generic Trademark in business, and they got comfortable. Claude Cowork was eating their lunch. The way Anthropic targeted finance teams, legal teams, sales teams, with their positioning was absolute product marketing genius.
ChatGPT Work is trying to reclaim some of that magic that Claude Cowork affords its users that is so hard to explain succinctly.
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#48It’s been part of the strategy from both OpenAI and Anthropic to split users into “devs” and “knowledge workers”. Hence Codex and Work (or Claude Code vs Cowork), and Chat is stuck in between. Codex can do everything Work can do and most non devs I know use Codex - from sales ppl doing weekly prioritisation of pipelines and customised email reach outs, to project managers using it as a living LLMWiki of all the proje…
What's the point of this split?
I suspect it's mostly marketing. People think "I don't want code so I won't use Codex" so they get the same thing but labeled Work.
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#49I recently figured out that I could use ChatGPT Work on my Pixel Phone to build native Android apps. It builds the app and you can then directly download/install the APK. So now I just build small utility apps on-the-go whenever I need them :)
Can it debug the apps? That would the app singularity - user speaking at their phone until phone complies and produces desired app for the current moment.
Yes, you can iterate on the app and ChatGPT Work will then create new versions of the app.
If something in the UI of the app looks weird, you simply take a screenshot and ask ChatGPT to fix it. Or what I also like to do is add a logging functionality to the app. If something goes wrong, I then just upload the log to ChatGPT so that it can fix it.
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#50I recently figured out that I could use ChatGPT Work on my Pixel Phone to build native Android apps. It builds the app and you can then directly download/install the APK. So now I just build small utility apps on-the-go whenever I need them :)
Can it debug the apps? That would the app singularity - user speaking at their phone until phone complies and produces desired app for the current moment.
It can debug, yes, but capability ranges from godlike for algorithmic issues to mediocre for subtle UI things. We are pretty close to your described app singularity if the app is within GPT’s wheelhouse.